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From: Hans Verkuil <hverkuil@xs4all.nl>
To: Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>
Cc: Sakari Ailus <sakari.ailus@iki.fi>,
	linux-media@vger.kernel.org, k.debski@samsung.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5.1 3/7] v4l: Add timestamp source flags, mask and document them
Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2014 08:17:19 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5306FD7F.6070207@xs4all.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1806212.4rVLkqN7y6@avalon>

On 02/21/2014 12:30 AM, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> Hi Hans,
> 
> On Thursday 20 February 2014 21:36:51 Hans Verkuil wrote:
>> On 02/20/2014 08:41 PM, Sakari Ailus wrote:
>>> Some devices do not produce timestamps that correspond to the end of the
>>> frame. The user space should be informed on the matter. This patch
>>> achieves
>>> that by adding buffer flags (and a mask) for timestamp sources since more
>>> possible timestamping points are expected than just two.
>>>
>>> A three-bit mask is defined (V4L2_BUF_FLAG_TSTAMP_SRC_MASK) and two of the
>>> eight possible values is are defined V4L2_BUF_FLAG_TSTAMP_SRC_EOF for end
>>> of frame (value zero) V4L2_BUF_FLAG_TSTAMP_SRC_SOE for start of exposure
>>> (next value).
>>
>> Sorry, but I still have two small notes:
>>> Signed-off-by: Sakari Ailus <sakari.ailus@iki.fi>
>>> ---
>>> since v5:
>>> - Add a note on software generated timestamp inaccuracy.
>>>
>>>  Documentation/DocBook/media/v4l/io.xml   |   38 +++++++++++++++++++++----
>>>  drivers/media/v4l2-core/videobuf2-core.c |    4 +++-
>>>  include/media/videobuf2-core.h           |    2 ++
>>>  include/uapi/linux/videodev2.h           |    4 ++++
>>>  4 files changed, 41 insertions(+), 7 deletions(-)
>>>
>>> diff --git a/Documentation/DocBook/media/v4l/io.xml
>>> b/Documentation/DocBook/media/v4l/io.xml index 46d24b3..22b87bc 100644
>>> --- a/Documentation/DocBook/media/v4l/io.xml
>>> +++ b/Documentation/DocBook/media/v4l/io.xml
>>> @@ -653,12 +653,6 @@ plane, are stored in struct
>>> <structname>v4l2_plane</structname> instead.> 
>>>  In that case, struct <structname>v4l2_buffer</structname> contains an
>>>  array of plane structures.</para>
>>>
>>> -      <para>For timestamp types that are sampled from the system clock
>>> -(V4L2_BUF_FLAG_TIMESTAMP_MONOTONIC) it is guaranteed that the timestamp
>>> is
>>> -taken after the complete frame has been received (or transmitted in
>>> -case of video output devices). For other kinds of
>>> -timestamps this may vary depending on the driver.</para>
>>> -
>>>
>>>      <table frame="none" pgwide="1" id="v4l2-buffer">
>>>      
>>>        <title>struct <structname>v4l2_buffer</structname></title>
>>>        <tgroup cols="4">
>>>
>>> @@ -1119,6 +1113,38 @@ in which case caches have not been used.</entry>
>>>  	    <entry>The CAPTURE buffer timestamp has been taken from the
>>>  	    corresponding OUTPUT buffer. This flag applies only to mem2mem
>>>  	    devices.</entry>
>>>  	  </row>
>>> +	  <row>
>>> +	    <entry><constant>V4L2_BUF_FLAG_TSTAMP_SRC_MASK</constant></entry>
>>> +	    <entry>0x00070000</entry>
>>> +	    <entry>Mask for timestamp sources below. The timestamp source
>>> +	    defines the point of time the timestamp is taken in relation to
>>> +	    the frame. Logical and operation between the
>>> +	    <structfield>flags</structfield> field and
>>> +	    <constant>V4L2_BUF_FLAG_TSTAMP_SRC_MASK</constant> produces the
>>> +	    value of the timestamp source.</entry>
>>> +	  </row>
>>> +	  <row>
>>> +	    <entry><constant>V4L2_BUF_FLAG_TSTAMP_SRC_EOF</constant></entry>
>>> +	    <entry>0x00000000</entry>
>>> +	    <entry>End Of Frame. The buffer timestamp has been taken
>>> +	    when the last pixel of the frame has been received or the
>>> +	    last pixel of the frame has been transmitted. In practice,
>>> +	    software generated timestamps will typically be read from
>>> +	    the clock a small amount of time after the last pixel has
>>> +	    been received, depending on the system and other activity
>>
>> s/been received/been received or transmitted/
>>
>>> +	    in it.</entry>
>>> +	  </row>
>>> +	  <row>
>>> +	    <entry><constant>V4L2_BUF_FLAG_TSTAMP_SRC_SOE</constant></entry>
>>> +	    <entry>0x00010000</entry>
>>> +	    <entry>Start Of Exposure. The buffer timestamp has been
>>> +	    taken when the exposure of the frame has begun. In
>>> +	    practice, software generated timestamps will typically be
>>> +	    read from the clock a small amount of time after the last
>>> +	    pixel has been received, depending on the system and other
>>> +	    activity in it. This is only valid for buffer type
>>> +	    <constant>V4L2_BUF_TYPE_VIDEO_CAPTURE</constant>.</entry>
>>
>> I would move the last sentence up to just before "In practice...". The
>> way it is now it looks like an afterthought.
>>
>> I am also not sure whether the whole "In practice" sentence is valid
>> here. Certainly the bit about "the last pixel" isn't since this is the
>> "SOE" case and not the End Of Frame. In the case of the UVC driver (and
>> that's the only one using this timestamp source) the timestamps come from
>> the hardware as I understand it, so the "software generated" bit doesn't
>> apply.
>>
>> I would actually be inclined to drop it altogether for this particular
>> timestamp source. But it's up to Laurent.
> 
> What do you mean, drop what altogether ?

The "In practice ... activity in it." sentence.

Regards,

	Hans

> 
>>> +	  </row>
>>>  	</tbody>
>>>        </tgroup>
>>>      </table>
> 


  reply	other threads:[~2014-02-21  7:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-02-15 20:52 [PATCH v5 0/7] Fix buffer timestamp documentation, add new timestamp flags Sakari Ailus
2014-02-15 20:52 ` [PATCH v5 1/7] v4l: Document timestamp behaviour to correspond to reality Sakari Ailus
2014-02-15 20:53 ` [PATCH v5 2/7] v4l: Use full 32 bits for buffer flags Sakari Ailus
2014-02-17  8:46   ` Hans Verkuil
2014-02-23 11:49   ` Hans Verkuil
2014-02-24 15:34     ` Sakari Ailus
2014-02-24 16:02       ` Hans Verkuil
2014-02-24 17:57         ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-02-24 16:13       ` Kamil Debski
2014-02-25 11:44         ` 'Sakari Ailus'
2014-02-25 12:02           ` Hans Verkuil
2014-02-15 20:53 ` [PATCH v5 3/7] v4l: Add timestamp source flags, mask and document them Sakari Ailus
2014-02-17  8:54   ` Hans Verkuil
2014-02-17 23:29     ` Sakari Ailus
2014-02-20 19:41       ` [PATCH v5.1 " Sakari Ailus
2014-02-20 20:36         ` Hans Verkuil
2014-02-20 21:10           ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2014-02-20 21:20             ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2014-02-21  9:51             ` Sakari Ailus
2014-02-20 23:30           ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-02-21  7:17             ` Hans Verkuil [this message]
2014-02-21  9:31           ` Sakari Ailus
2014-02-21 11:58             ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-02-21 13:04               ` Sakari Ailus
2014-02-21 13:19                 ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-02-23 10:40             ` [PATCH v5.2 " Sakari Ailus
2014-02-23 11:36               ` Hans Verkuil
2014-02-25 13:09   ` [PATCH v5 " Kamil Debski
2014-02-26  0:09     ` 'Sakari Ailus'
2014-02-15 20:53 ` [PATCH v5 4/7] uvcvideo: Tell the user space we're using start-of-exposure timestamps Sakari Ailus
2014-02-17  0:51   ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-02-15 20:53 ` [PATCH v5 5/7] exynos-gsc, m2m-deinterlace, mx2_emmaprp: Copy v4l2_buffer data from src to dst Sakari Ailus
2014-02-25 13:08   ` Kamil Debski
2014-02-15 20:53 ` [PATCH v5 6/7] v4l: Copy timestamp source flags to destination on m2m devices Sakari Ailus
2014-02-25 13:08   ` Kamil Debski
2014-02-15 20:53 ` [PATCH v5 7/7] v4l: Document timestamp buffer flag behaviour Sakari Ailus
2014-02-15 21:03   ` Hans Verkuil
2014-02-16 17:50     ` Sakari Ailus
2014-02-17  0:56     ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-02-17  8:43       ` Hans Verkuil
2014-02-17 23:32         ` Sakari Ailus
2014-02-17 23:33           ` Sakari Ailus
2014-02-20 19:42             ` [PATCH v5.1 " Sakari Ailus
2014-02-20 20:25               ` Hans Verkuil
2014-02-23 10:39                 ` Sakari Ailus
2014-02-23 11:45   ` [PATCH v5 " Hans Verkuil
2014-02-25 17:08     ` Sakari Ailus
2014-02-25 17:28       ` Hans Verkuil
2014-02-26  0:04         ` Sakari Ailus
2014-02-26  0:07           ` Hans Verkuil

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