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From: Tomi Valkeinen <tomi.valkeinen@ti.com>
To: Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>,
	Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>
Cc: Mauro Carvalho Chehab <m.chehab@samsung.com>,
	Grant Likely <grant.likely@linaro.org>,
	Philipp Zabel <p.zabel@pengutronix.de>,
	Sascha Hauer <s.hauer@pengutronix.de>,
	Rob Herring <robherring2@gmail.com>,
	Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	Sylwester Nawrocki <s.nawrocki@samsung.com>,
	Kyungmin Park <kyungmin.park@samsung.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-media@vger.kernel.org" <linux-media@vger.kernel.org>,
	"devicetree@vger.kernel.org" <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	Philipp Zabel <philipp.zabel@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] [media]: of: move graph helpers from drivers/media/v4l2-core to drivers/of
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2014 10:20:51 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <532BF663.602@ti.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4700752.xAVjk21KIL@avalon>

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On 20/03/14 20:49, Laurent Pinchart wrote:

>> The CPU is the _controlling_ component - it's the component that has to
>> configure the peripherals so they all talk to each other in the right
>> way.  Therefore, the view of it needs to be CPU centric.
>>
>> If we were providing a DT description for consumption by some other
>> device in the system, then the view should be as seen from that device
>> instead.
>>
>> Think about this.  Would you describe a system starting at, say, the
>> system keyboard, and branching all the way through just becuase that's
>> how you interact with it, or would you describe it from the CPUs point
>> of view because that's what has to be in control of the system.
> 
> DT has been designed to represent a control-based view of the system. It does 
> so pretty well using its tree-based model. However, it doesn't have a native 
> way to represent a flow-based graph, hence the OF graph solution we're 
> discussing. The whole point of this proposal is to represent the topology of 
> the media device, not how each entity is controlled.

I agree with Laurent here. I think this is an important point to keep in
mind. We already describe the control graph in the DT via the
parent-child relationships. There's no point in describing the same
thing again with the graph links being discussed.

 Tomi



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  reply	other threads:[~2014-03-21  8:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-02-11 11:45 [RFC PATCH] [media]: of: move graph helpers from drivers/media/v4l2-core to drivers/of Philipp Zabel
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     [not found]   ` < 20140217181451.7EB7FC4044D@trevor.secretlab.ca>
     [not found] ` < 20140320153804.35d5b835@samsung.com>
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2014-02-11 13:56 ` Rob Herring
2014-02-11 14:52   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-02-11 15:23     ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-02-11 16:36       ` Philipp Zabel
2014-02-11 17:22         ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2014-02-11 17:41           ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2014-02-11 21:00             ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2014-02-11 21:46           ` Philipp Zabel
2014-02-11 17:24         ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-02-11 16:30     ` Rob Herring
2014-02-11 15:27   ` Philipp Zabel
2014-02-17 18:14   ` Grant Likely
2014-02-18  7:06     ` Sascha Hauer
2014-02-18 16:26       ` Grant Likely
     [not found]         ` < 1393263389.3091.82.camel@pizza.hi.pengutronix.de>
     [not found]           ` <20140226110114. CF2C7C40A89@trevor.secretlab.ca>
2014-02-24 17:36         ` Philipp Zabel
2014-02-26 11:01           ` Grant Likely
2014-02-26 14:48             ` Philipp Zabel
2014-02-27  8:36               ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-03-07 17:06                 ` Grant Likely
2014-03-08 10:57                   ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-03-07 17:05               ` Grant Likely
2014-03-08 10:33                 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-03-08 11:41                   ` Grant Likely
2014-03-08 23:25                     ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2014-03-10 10:18                     ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-03-10 13:52                       ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-03-10 14:10                         ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-03-10 14:58                         ` Grant Likely
2014-03-10 15:15                           ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-03-10 15:40                             ` Philipp Zabel
2014-03-11 11:43                               ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-03-11 12:59                                 ` Tomi Valkeinen
     [not found]                                   ` <1883687.VdfitvQEN3@samsung.com>
     [not found]                                     ` <avalon@samsung.com>
2014-03-11 13:16                                   ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-03-11 13:27                                     ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-03-11 13:44                                       ` Philipp Zabel
2014-03-20 17:23                                     ` Grant Likely
2014-03-21 10:44                                       ` Andrzej Hajda
2014-03-21 11:47                                         ` Grant Likely
2014-03-21 12:16                                           ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-03-21 14:33                                             ` Grant Likely
2014-03-20 17:09                                 ` Grant Likely
2014-03-11 13:04                             ` Andrzej Hajda
2014-03-20 17:33                               ` Grant Likely
2014-03-20 17:01                             ` Grant Likely
2014-03-21 12:10                               ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-03-11 15:07                           ` Philipp Zabel
2014-03-11 15:21                             ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-03-11 18:52                               ` Philipp Zabel
2014-03-20 17:53                               ` Grant Likely
2014-03-20 17:36                             ` Grant Likely
2014-03-12 10:25                         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-03-12 10:47                           ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-03-12 11:21                             ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-03-20 17:54                           ` Grant Likely
2014-03-20 18:16                             ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-03-20 18:18                               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-03-20 18:50                                 ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-03-20 19:27                                 ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-03-20 18:38                             ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2014-03-20 18:43                               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-03-20 18:49                                 ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-03-21  8:20                                   ` Tomi Valkeinen [this message]
2014-03-20 18:48                               ` Grant Likely
2014-03-20 18:52                                 ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-03-20 23:12                                   ` Grant Likely
2014-03-20 23:26                                     ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-03-21  8:15                                       ` Grant Likely
2014-03-21 12:44                                         ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-03-21 13:26                                           ` Grant Likely
2014-03-10 14:41                       ` Grant Likely
2014-03-08 11:54                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-02-18 10:43     ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2014-02-18 13:41     ` Philipp Zabel

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