Running Technisat DVB-S2 on ARM-NAS

Running Technisat DVB-S2 on ARM-NAS

[JPT]

Hi,

I want to turn my Netgear ReadyNAS RN104 into a VDR.
I already run a self made kernel 3.16.3) and plain debian on it.
For hardware and software details see http://natisbad.org/NAS3/

I recently compiled those DVB modules into the kernel.
And after a lot of struggle to get a clean build, I succeeded in loading
the modules:
dvb_usb_technisat_usb2, dvb_usb, dvb_core, stv090x, rc_core

but device recognition somehow does not fully work.

usb 2-1: new high-speed USB device number 3 using xhci_hcd
usb 2-1: New USB device found, idVendor=14f7, idProduct=0500
usb 2-1: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3
usb 2-1: Product: TechniSat USB device
usb 2-1: Manufacturer: TechniSat Digital
usb 2-1: SerialNumber: ************
technisat-usb2: set alternate setting
technisat-usb2: firmware version: 17.63
dvb-usb: found a 'Technisat SkyStar USB HD (DVB-S/S2)' in warm state.
dvb-usb: will pass the complete MPEG2 transport stream to the software
demuxer.
dvb-usb: Technisat SkyStar USB HD (DVB-S/S2) error while loading driver
(-12)
usbcore: registered new interface driver dvb_usb_technisat_usb2


How my I find out more about the error -12? It's a lot of wrapped
"return ret" in the code...
Is there any way of enabling more logging?

I believe it comes from the dvb-usb-technisat-usb2 module, but there is
no c file?

thanks.

Jan

Re: Running Technisat DVB-S2 on ARM-NAS

[Antti Palosaari]

On 09/21/2014 05:26 PM, JPT wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I want to turn my Netgear ReadyNAS RN104 into a VDR.
> I already run a self made kernel 3.16.3) and plain debian on it.
> For hardware and software details see http://natisbad.org/NAS3/
>
> I recently compiled those DVB modules into the kernel.
> And after a lot of struggle to get a clean build, I succeeded in loading
> the modules:
> dvb_usb_technisat_usb2, dvb_usb, dvb_core, stv090x, rc_core
>
> but device recognition somehow does not fully work.
>
> usb 2-1: new high-speed USB device number 3 using xhci_hcd
> usb 2-1: New USB device found, idVendor=14f7, idProduct=0500
> usb 2-1: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3
> usb 2-1: Product: TechniSat USB device
> usb 2-1: Manufacturer: TechniSat Digital
> usb 2-1: SerialNumber: ************
> technisat-usb2: set alternate setting
> technisat-usb2: firmware version: 17.63
> dvb-usb: found a 'Technisat SkyStar USB HD (DVB-S/S2)' in warm state.
> dvb-usb: will pass the complete MPEG2 transport stream to the software
> demuxer.
> dvb-usb: Technisat SkyStar USB HD (DVB-S/S2) error while loading driver
> (-12)
> usbcore: registered new interface driver dvb_usb_technisat_usb2
>
>
> How my I find out more about the error -12? It's a lot of wrapped
> "return ret" in the code...
> Is there any way of enabling more logging?
>
> I believe it comes from the dvb-usb-technisat-usb2 module, but there is
> no c file?

http://www.virtsync.com/c-error-codes-include-errno

#define ENOMEM      12  /* Out of memory */

Likely allocating USB stream buffers fails. You could try request 
smaller buffers. Drop count to 1 and test. Drop framesperurb to 1 and 
test. Drop framesize to 1 and test. Surely streaming will not work if 
all buffers are totally wrong and too small, but you will see if it is 
due to big usb buffers. Then you could try optimize buffers smaller.

			.stream = {
				.type = USB_ISOC,
				.count = 8,
				.endpoint = 0x2,
				.u = {
					.isoc = {
						.framesperurb = 32,
						.framesize = 2048,
						.interval = 1,
					}
				}
			},

regards
Antti

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http://palosaari.fi/

Re: Running Technisat DVB-S2 on ARM-NAS

[JPT]

>> How my I find out more about the error -12? 
> 
> http://www.virtsync.com/c-error-codes-include-errno
> 
> #define ENOMEM      12  /* Out of memory */
> 
> Likely allocating USB stream buffers fails. You could try request
> smaller buffers. Drop count to 1 and test. Drop framesperurb to 1 and
> test. Drop framesize to 1 and test. Surely streaming will not work if
> all buffers are totally wrong and too small, but you will see if it is
> due to big usb buffers. Then you could try optimize buffers smaller.
> 

Wow, that did it. Thanks Antti!

Works with count = 2, but not with count = 4.

What exactly do I learn from this?
Where are those buffers? In the RAM? or somewhere in onboard USB hardware?

VDR is now able to connect to the device, but I am not sure if it
receives anything yet.

Jan

Re: Running Technisat DVB-S2 on ARM-NAS

[Antti Palosaari]

On 09/21/2014 06:10 PM, JPT wrote:
>>> How my I find out more about the error -12?
>>
>> http://www.virtsync.com/c-error-codes-include-errno
>>
>> #define ENOMEM      12  /* Out of memory */
>>
>> Likely allocating USB stream buffers fails. You could try request
>> smaller buffers. Drop count to 1 and test. Drop framesperurb to 1 and
>> test. Drop framesize to 1 and test. Surely streaming will not work if
>> all buffers are totally wrong and too small, but you will see if it is
>> due to big usb buffers. Then you could try optimize buffers smaller.
>>
>
> Wow, that did it. Thanks Antti!
>
> Works with count = 2, but not with count = 4.
>
> What exactly do I learn from this?
> Where are those buffers? In the RAM? or somewhere in onboard USB hardware?
>
> VDR is now able to connect to the device, but I am not sure if it
> receives anything yet.

.count = 8,
.framesperurb = 32,
.framesize = 2048,

If I didn't remember wrong, that means allocated buffers are 8 * 32 * 
2048 = 524288 bytes. It sounds rather big for my taste. Probably even 
wrong. IIRC USB2.0 frames are 1024 and there could be 1-3 frames. You 
could use lsusb with all verbosity levels to see if it is 
1024/2048/3072. And set value according to that info.

32 framesperurb sounds absolute too much. You could decrease it a lot, 
under 10 should be OK. Maybe 8 is good guess. 8 is number of URBs you 
use for streaming. 8 does not sound bad, but maybe 6 is OK if it works. 
Smallest value depends largely device USB FIFO size vs. stream size. 
Bigger the FIFO less the buffers needed. Smaller the stream, less the 
buffers needed.

So I would recommend
.count = 6,
.framesperurb = 8,
.framesize = 1024,

Use some testing with error and trial to find out smallest working 
buffers, then add some 20% extra for that.

regards
Antti



-- 
http://palosaari.fi/

Re: Running Technisat DVB-S2 on ARM-NAS

[JPT]

> If I didn't remember wrong, that means allocated buffers are 8 * 32 *
> 2048 = 524288 bytes. It sounds rather big for my taste. Probably even
> wrong. IIRC USB2.0 frames are 1024 and there could be 1-3 frames. You
> could use lsusb with all verbosity levels to see if it is
> 1024/2048/3072. And set value according to that info.

lsusb tells:
    Interface Descriptor:
      Endpoint Descriptor:
        wMaxPacketSize     0x0200  1x 512 bytes
      Endpoint Descriptor:
        wMaxPacketSize     0x0200  1x 512 bytes
      Endpoint Descriptor:
        wMaxPacketSize     0x0200  1x 512 bytes
    Interface Descriptor:
      Endpoint Descriptor:
        wMaxPacketSize     0x0c00  2x 1024 bytes
      Endpoint Descriptor:
        wMaxPacketSize     0x0200  1x 512 bytes
      Endpoint Descriptor:
        wMaxPacketSize     0x0200  1x 512 bytes


But I haven't got any clue about the meaning.
Ask me a question about any bit in the tcp/ip packages, but don't ask me
about USB ;)
Where can I get technical details that are, well... readable without
studing for weeks?

btw, it's attached to a FT1009 USB3.0 SuperSpeed chip.

> So I would recommend
> .count = 6,
> .framesperurb = 8,
> .framesize = 1024,
> 
> Use some testing with error and trial to find out smallest working
> buffers, then add some 20% extra for that.

I set to 8x8x2048 (because max package size is 2x1024)
but w_scan doesn't find any transponder.

What should happen if buffers are too small?

Tommorrow I'll swap the sat cable just to make sure this isn't the cause.

thanks,

Jan

Re: Running Technisat DVB-S2 on ARM-NAS

[Jannis]

Am 21.09.2014 um 19:28 schrieb JPT:
> Tommorrow I'll swap the sat cable just to make sure this isn't the cause.

Hi Jan,

Are we talking about this device:
http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Technisat_SkyStar_USB_HD
(You never mentioned the actual model AFAIK)?

If so, it has two LEDs. A red one for "power" and a green one for
"tuned"/"locked". So if the green one lights up, the sat cable should be
okay.

I remember having tested my one with the RaspberryPi and it worked. So
it is not a general problem of the DVB-S2 device and ARM but rather the
specific board you are working with.
Just found the link where I reported success:
https://github.com/raspberrypi/linux/issues/82#issuecomment-27253775

Best regards,
	Jannis

Re: Running Technisat DVB-S2 on ARM-NAS

[Jan Tisje]

Am 21.09.2014 um 22:45 schrieb Jannis:
> Am 21.09.2014 um 19:28 schrieb JPT:
>> Tommorrow I'll swap the sat cable just to make sure this isn't the cause.
> 
> Hi Jan,
> 
> Are we talking about this device:
> http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Technisat_SkyStar_USB_HD

Yes, exactly.

> (You never mentioned the actual model AFAIK)?

No, I didn't. I'm sorry.

> If so, it has two LEDs. A red one for "power" and a green one for
> "tuned"/"locked". So if the green one lights up, the sat cable should be
> okay.

Swapped cables: now it works. :)
I have to check why this cable is bad :(

Recording works fine, too.

> I remember having tested my one with the RaspberryPi and it worked. So
> it is not a general problem of the DVB-S2 device and ARM but rather the
> specific board you are working with.
> Just found the link where I reported success:
> https://github.com/raspberrypi/linux/issues/82#issuecomment-27253775

That's great to hear. Thanks!
I didn't expect anyone tried DVB on ARM yet. The Linux community is
great. I'm so glad I don't need Win any more (in general).


Thank you very much to both of you, and to all that people who wrote the
code!

Jan