From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-path: Received: from lb3-smtp-cloud3.xs4all.net ([194.109.24.30]:44720 "EHLO lb3-smtp-cloud3.xs4all.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751473AbbEIJbt (ORCPT ); Sat, 9 May 2015 05:31:49 -0400 Message-ID: <554DD3FE.1070806@xs4all.nl> Date: Sat, 09 May 2015 11:31:42 +0200 From: Hans Verkuil MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mauro Carvalho Chehab CC: Linux Media Mailing List , Mauro Carvalho Chehab , Jonathan Corbet , Matthias Schwarzott , Antti Palosaari , Olli Salonen , Prabhakar Lad , Sakari Ailus , Laurent Pinchart , linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-api@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH 07/18] media controller: rename the tuner entity References: <6d88ece22cbbbaa72bbddb8b152b0d62728d6129.1431046915.git.mchehab@osg.samsung.com> <554CA862.8070407@xs4all.nl> <20150508095754.1c39a276@recife.lan> <554CB863.1040006@xs4all.nl> <20150508110826.00e4e954@recife.lan> <554CC8E3.2030308@xs4all.nl> In-Reply-To: <554CC8E3.2030308@xs4all.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-media-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: >>> Brainstorming: >>> >>> It might be better to map each device node to an entity and each hardware >>> component (tuner, DMA engine) to an entity, and avoid this mixing of >>> hw entity vs device node entity. There are two options here: either make each device node an entity, or expose the device node information as properties of an entity. The latter would be backwards compatible with what we do today. I'm trying to think of reasons why you would want to make each device node an entity in its own right. The problem today is that a video_device representing a video/vbi/radio/swradio device node is an entity, but it is really representing the dma engine. Which is weird for radio devices since there is no dma engine there. Implementing device nodes as entities in their own right does solve this problem, but implementing it as properties would be weird since a radio device node would be a property of a radio tuner entity, which can be a subdevice driver which means that the bridge driver would have to add the radio device property to a subdev driver, which feels really wrong to me. With this in mind I do think representing device nodes as entities in their own right makes sense. But I would do this also for a v4l-subdev node. It's very inconsistent not to do that. Regards, Hans