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From: Hans Verkuil <hverkuil@xs4all.nl>
To: Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>,
	Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@osg.samsung.com>
Cc: LMML <linux-media@vger.kernel.org>,
	Sakari Ailus <sakari.ailus@iki.fi>,
	Javier Martinez Canillas <javier@osg.samsung.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC] Representing hardware connections via MC
Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2016 12:28:10 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <56D6CE4A.1000208@xs4all.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1736605.4kGg8lYGrV@avalon>

On 03/02/16 12:16, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> Hi Mauro,
> 
> On Wednesday 02 March 2016 08:13:23 Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
>> Em Wed, 02 Mar 2016 12:34:42 +0200 Laurent Pinchart escreveu:
>>> On Friday 26 February 2016 09:13:17 Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
> 
> [snip]
> 
>>>> NOTE:
>>>>
>>>> The labels at the PADs currently can't be represented, but the
>>>> idea is adding it as a property via the upcoming properties API.
>>>
>>> Whether to add labels to pads, and more generically how to differentiate
>>> them from userspace, is an interesting question. I'd like to decouple it
>>> from the connectors entities discussion if possible, in such a way that
>>> using labels wouldn't be required to leave the discussion open on that
>>> topic. If we foresee a dependency on labels for pads then we should open
>>> that discussion now.
>>
>> We can postpone such discussion. PAD labels are not needed for
>> what we have so far (RF, Composite, S-Video). Still, I think that
>> we'll need it by the time we add connector support for more complex
>> connector types, like HDMI.
> 
> If we don't add pad labels now then they should be optional for future 
> connectors too, including HDMI. If you think that HDMI connectors will require 
> them then we should discuss them now.
> 

Pad labels are IMHO only useful for producing human readable output. For complex
designs that helps a lot to understand what is going on.

But for kernel/applications all you need are #defines with the pad numbers (e.g.
HDMI_PAD_TMDS, HDMI_PAD_CEC, HDMI_PAD_ARC) to use for connectors.

Regards,

	Hans

  reply	other threads:[~2016-03-02 11:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-02-26 12:13 [RFC] Representing hardware connections via MC Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-02-26 13:13 ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2016-02-26 13:48   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-03-02 11:10   ` Laurent Pinchart
2016-02-26 13:23 ` Hans Verkuil
2016-02-26 13:47   ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2016-02-26 14:05     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-02-26 14:00   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-02-26 14:07     ` Hans Verkuil
2016-02-26 14:27       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-03-02 10:34 ` Laurent Pinchart
2016-03-02 11:13   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-03-02 11:16     ` Laurent Pinchart
2016-03-02 11:28       ` Hans Verkuil [this message]
2016-03-02 12:08         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-03-02 18:33           ` Hans Verkuil
2016-03-02 19:31             ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-03-02 23:18               ` Laurent Pinchart
2016-03-05 14:53                 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-03-02 12:32       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-03-02 23:23         ` Laurent Pinchart
2016-03-02 14:16 ` Sakari Ailus
2016-03-02 15:40   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-03-02 16:04     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-03-02 16:24       ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2016-03-02 17:32       ` Shuah Khan
2016-03-02 18:30       ` Hans Verkuil
2016-03-02 22:58     ` Laurent Pinchart
2016-03-03  7:54       ` Hans Verkuil
2016-03-03 10:10         ` Laurent Pinchart
2016-03-05 15:00           ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-03-03 12:48       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-03-05 14:18       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab

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