From: Jose Alberto Reguero <jareguero@telefonica.net>
To: Alessandro Radicati <alessandro@radicati.net>
Cc: Antti Palosaari <crope@iki.fi>, linux-media@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: AVerMedia HD Volar (A867) AF9035 + MXL5007T driver issues
Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2016 23:30:42 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <56F5ABE500F2E953@smtp.movistar.es> (raw)
I have the problem with a avermedia twinstart.
07ca:0825
With first hardware revision the read works, but second hardware revision read don’t work.
Jose Alberto
El 09/04/2016 19:38, Alessandro Radicati <alessandro@radicati.net> escribió:
>
> On Sat, Apr 9, 2016 at 7:07 PM, Antti Palosaari <crope@iki.fi> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On 04/09/2016 07:11 PM, Alessandro Radicati wrote:
> >>
> >> On Sat, Apr 9, 2016 at 4:25 PM, Antti Palosaari <crope@iki.fi> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On 04/09/2016 11:13 AM, Alessandro Radicati wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Sat, Apr 9, 2016 at 4:17 AM, Antti Palosaari <crope@iki.fi> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 04/09/2016 04:52 AM, Alessandro Radicati wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Sat, Apr 9, 2016 at 3:22 AM, Antti Palosaari <crope@iki.fi> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Here is patches to test:
> >>>>>>> http://git.linuxtv.org/anttip/media_tree.git/log/?h=af9035
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I've done this already in my testing, and it works for getting a
> >>>>>> correct chip_id response, but only because it's avoiding the issue
> >>>>>> with the write/read case in the af9035 driver. Don't have an
> >>>>>> af9015... perhaps there's a similar issue with that code or we are
> >>>>>> dealing with two separate issues since af9035 never does a repeated
> >>>>>> start?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I am pretty sure mxl5007t requires stop between read and write. Usually
> >>>>> chips are not caring too much if it is repeated start or not, whilst
> >>>>> datasheets are often register read is S Wr S Rw P.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Even af9035 i2c adapter implementation implements repeated start wrong,
> >>>>> I
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Where does the assumption that CMD_I2C_RD should issue a repeated
> >>>> start sequence come from? From the datasheet? Maybe it was never
> >>>> intended as repeated start. Perhaps if there is another stick with
> >>>> mxl5007t and a chip that does repeated start, we can put this to bed.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Assumption was coming from it just does it as a single USB transaction.
> >>> Datasheet says there is no repeated start. And kernel I2C API says all
> >>> messages send using single i2c_transfer() should be send with repeated
> >>> start, so now it is violating it, but that's not the biggest problem...
> >>>
> >>
> >> Unfortunately there is no way around that problem, but at least it
> >> means that you can reduce the whole function to just read and write
> >> since at the I2C level nothing changes.
> >>
> >>>>> would not like to add anymore hacks there. It is currently ugly and
> >>>>> complex
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Bugfix != hack. Don't see how putting the register address in the
> >>>> address fields is a hack (perhaps semantics around the fact that 0xFB
> >>>> is not really part of the address?); this is the only and intended way
> >>>> to use that command for write/read.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I did bunch of testing and find it is really wrong. Dumped out registers
> >>> from some tuner chips and those seems to be mostly off by one.
> >>>
> >>> I think that skeleton is correct way (and it ends about same you did)
> >>> if (msg[0].len == 0) // probe message, payload 0
> >>> buf[0] = msg[0].len;
> >>> buf[1] = msg[0].addr << 1;
> >>> buf[2] = 0x00; /* reg addr len */
> >>> buf[3] = 0x00; /* reg addr MSB */
> >>> buf[4] = 0x00; /* reg addr LSB */
> >>> else if (msg[0].len == 1)
> >>> buf[0] = msg[0].len;
> >>> buf[1] = msg[0].addr << 1;
> >>> buf[2] = 1; /* reg addr len */
> >>> buf[3] = 0x00; /* reg addr MSB */
> >>> buf[4] = msg[0].buf[0]; /* reg addr LSB */
> >>> else if (msg[0].len == 2)
> >>> buf[0] = msg[0].len;
> >>> buf[1] = msg[0].addr << 1;
> >>> buf[2] = 2; /* reg addr len */
> >>> buf[3] = msg[0].buf[0]; /* reg addr MSB */
> >>> buf[4] = msg[0].buf[1]; /* reg addr LSB */
> >>> else
> >>> buf[0] = msg[0].len;
> >>> buf[1] = msg[0].addr << 1;
> >>> buf[2] = 2; /* reg addr len */
> >>> buf[3] = msg[0].buf[0]; /* reg addr MSB */
> >>> buf[4] = msg[0].buf[1]; /* reg addr LSB */
> >>> memcpy(&buf[5], msg[2].buf, msg[0].len - 2);
> >>>
> >>
> >> Yes, this is the same, except I kept the original behavior when write
> >> len > 2. Hence with my patch the I2C bus would only see a read
> >> transaction. With the above, you would write the first two bytes and
> >> ignore the rest, then read. This may be worse than just doing a read
> >> because if a future tuner reg read setup/address is > 2 then you may
> >> get into a strange situation. If that case needs to be addressed,
> >> then might as well get rid of the single write/read usb transaction
> >> and just support write or read.
> >
> >
> > Last else branch should do it - but no idea if it works at all and none of
> > tuners are using it and it is very unlikely there will never be.
> >
> > It is easy to test, but I suspect if you write S Wr[11 11 12 13] P S Rw P it
> > will return value from register 13 on a case chip supports writing multiple
> > registers using reg address auto-increment as usually.
> >
>
> Point is the USB read command ignores anything in the memcpy, so you
> cant write more than 2 bytes. Your example results in S Wr 11 11 P S
> Rd xx P. My patch left this with previous behavior so it would just
> do S Rd xx P.
>
> >
> >>>>> as hell. I should be re-written totally in any case. Those tuner I2C
> >>>>> adapters should be moved to demod. Demod has 1 I2C adapter. USB-bridge
> >>>>> has 2
> >>>>> adapters, one for each demod.
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Agreed that it can be refactored and improved. Also to support n
> >>>> transactions with a simple while loop and only issuing single writes
> >>>> and reads. Only downside would be increased USB traffic for 2
> >>>> commands vs 1 - hence negligible.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> there is i2c_adapter_quirks nowadays for these adapters which could do
> >>> only
> >>> limited set of commands.
> >>> include/linux/i2c.h
> >>
> >>
> >> Perhaps just supporting write or read can be done with:
> >>
> >> struct i2c_adapter_quirks just_rw = {
> >> .flags=0,
> >> .max_num_msgs=1,
> >> .max_write_len=40,
> >> .max_read_len=40,
> >> };
> >>
> >> Otherwise as is:
> >>
> >> struct i2c_adapter_quirks as_is = {
> >> .flags=I2C_AQ_COMB_WRITE_THEN_READ,
> >> .max_num_msgs=2,
> >> .max_write_len=40,
> >> .max_read_len=40,
> >> .max_comb_1st_msg_len=2,
> >> .max_comb_2nd_msg_len=40,
> >> };
> >>
> >>>
> >>> In my understanding that is how those chips are wired:
> >>> +---------------+ +--------+
> >>> | I2C adapter-1 | --> | eeprom |
> >>> +---------------+ +--------+
> >>> +---------------+ +---------+ +---------+
> >>> | I2C adapter-2 | --> | demod-1 | --> | tuner-1 |
> >>> +---------------+ +---------+ +---------+
> >>> +---------------+ +---------+ +---------+
> >>> | I2C adapter-3 | --> | demod-2 | --> | tuner-2 |
> >>> +---------------+ +---------+ +---------+
> >>>
> >>
> >> I just have one demod, but as a clue, the address you provided to set
> >> the tuner I2C speed is named like this in the OEM linux driver:
> >>
> >> p_reg_lnk2ofdm_data_63_56
> >>
> >>>>> I have to find out af9015 datasheets and check how it is there. But I
> >>>>> still
> >>>>> remember one case where I implemented one FX2 firmware and that same
> >>>>> issues
> >>>>> raises there as well.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> After that both af9015+mxl5007t and af9035+mxl5007t started working.
> >>>>>>> Earlier
> >>>>>>> both were returning bogus values for chip id read.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Also I am interested to known which kind of communication there is
> >>>>>>> actually
> >>>>>>> seen on I2C bus?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> With this or the patch I proposed, you see exactly what you expect on
> >>>>>> the I2C bus with repeated stops, as detailed in my previous mails.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> So it is good?
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Yes, I2C looks good.
> >>>>
> >>>>>>> If it starts working then have to find out way to fix it properly so
> >>>>>>> that
> >>>>>>> any earlier device didn't broke.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I hope that by now I've made abundantly clear that my mxl5007t locks
> >>>>>> up after *any* read. It doesn't matter if we are reading the correct
> >>>>>> register after any of the proposed patches.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> So it still locks up after any read after the chip id read? And does
> >>>>> not
> >>>>> work then? On my devices I can add multiple mxl5007t_get_chip_id()
> >>>>> calls
> >>>>> and
> >>>>> all are returning correct values.
> >>>>>
> >>>>41920172
> >>>> No, as mentioned before, it locks up at the end of any read command.
> >>>> Including the chip_id. The firmware is not aware of the issue and
> >>>> wont complain until the next I2C transaction.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Maybe I2C speed is too fast?
> >>> I tested with my device it failed when I increased speed to 850kHz.
> >>> 640kHz
> >>> was working. I am not sure which is default speed and driver didn't
> >>> change
> >>> it. Just try to dropping it to 142kHz (0x12).
> >>> Speed is calculated using that formula (0x12 in that case is register
> >>> value):
> >>> octave:36> 1000000 / (24.4 * 16 * 0x12)
> >>> ans = 142.304189435337
> >>>
> >>> These are related registers:
> >>> /* I2C master bus 2 clock speed 300k */
> >>> ret = af9035_wr_reg(d, 0x00f6a7, 0x07);
> >>> /* I2C master bus 1,3 clock speed 300k */
> >>> ret = af9035_wr_reg(d, 0x00f103, 0x07);
> >>>
> >>> Just add some good place before tuner attach like
> >>> af9035_frontend_attach().
> >>>
> >>
> >> Found that the default value is 0x00 and results in ~97KHz SCL
> >> frequency. Tested up to 0x3C which I measured to ~42KHz, but the bus
> >> still locks up. Doesn't seem like speed is the problem.
> >>
> >>>>> Could you test what happens if you use that CMD_GENERIC_I2C_WR +
> >>>>> CMD_GENERIC_I2C_RD ? I suspect it is lower level I2C xfer than those
> >>>>> CMD_I2C_RD + CMD_I2C_WR, which are likely somehow handled by demod
> >>>>> core.
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I will test, but the issue is either electrical or with the state of
> >>>> the mxl5007t. I2C bus looks good from AF9035 side once the bug in the
> >>>> above is patched.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> If dropping I2C speed does not help then I cannot imagine any other fix
> >>> than
> >>> adding mxl5007t driver option which disables problematic reads *or* add
> >>> some
> >>> hack to af9035 i2c adapter implementation which fakes required
> >>> problematic
> >>> commands ones that looks "good".
> >>>
> >>
> >> Unless there is a specific state in which the mxl5007t must be in for
> >> you to issue a read, I really don't know what else could be wrong.
> >> Would be nice to know if this issue happens with other demods to
> >> further justify the "no_probe" fix in the mxl5007t driver.
> >
> >
> > For me it works even device is ~same. It could be just some hw issues, too
> > noisy bus or like that. Maybe different PCB revision.
> >
> > My device ID is 07ca:0337, yours different. I think it is best add some
> > quirk to af9035 i2c-adapter that it looks USB ID and returns fake values to
> > mxl5007t driver in order to work-around issue. As thumb of rule all device
> > specifics hacks should be added to interface driver leaving chip drivers
> > hack free. So add some glue there and that's it. I cannot discover any
> > better fix currently.
> >
>
> Indeed mine is 07ca:a867, will propose a patch.
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2016-04-10 21:30 Jose Alberto Reguero [this message]
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2016-04-08 23:59 ` AVerMedia HD Volar (A867) AF9035 + MXL5007T driver issues Alessandro Radicati
2016-04-09 0:50 ` Antti Palosaari
2016-04-09 1:22 ` Antti Palosaari
2016-04-09 1:52 ` Alessandro Radicati
2016-04-09 2:17 ` Antti Palosaari
2016-04-09 8:13 ` Alessandro Radicati
2016-04-09 14:25 ` Antti Palosaari
2016-04-09 16:11 ` Alessandro Radicati
2016-04-09 17:07 ` Antti Palosaari
2016-04-09 17:38 ` Alessandro Radicati
2016-04-09 1:29 ` Alessandro Radicati
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2016-04-08 23:13 Jose Alberto Reguero
2016-04-02 10:44 Alessandro Radicati
2016-04-05 18:15 ` Antti Palosaari
2016-04-05 19:34 ` Alessandro Radicati
2016-04-05 22:33 ` Antti Palosaari
2016-04-05 23:00 ` Alessandro Radicati
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