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From: Takashi Sakamoto <o-takashi@sakamocchi.jp>
To: Henrik Austad <henrik@austad.us>, alsa-devel@alsa-project.org
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-media@vger.kernel.org,
	alsa-devel@vger.kernel.org, henrk@austad.us
Subject: Re: [very-RFC 0/8] TSN driver for the kernel
Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2016 13:30:24 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <575CE560.9090608@sakamocchi.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <575CD93C.50006@sakamocchi.jp>

On Jun 12 2016 12:38, Takashi Sakamoto wrote:
> In your patcset, there's no actual codes about how to handle any
> interrupt contexts (software / hardware), how to handle packet payload,
> and so on. Especially, for recent sound subsystem, the timing of
> generating interrupts and which context does what works are important to
> reduce playback/capture latency and power consumption.
> 
> Of source, your intention of this patchset is to show your early concept
> of TSN feature. Nevertheless, both of explaination and codes are
> important to the other developers who have little knowledges about TSN,
> AVB and AES-64 such as me.

Oops. Your 5th patch was skipped by alsa-project.org. I guess that size
of the patch is too large to the list service. I can see it:
http://marc.info/?l=linux-netdev&m=146568672728661&w=2

As long as seeing the patch, packets are queueing in hrtimer callbacks
every 1 seconds.

(This is a high level discussion and it's OK to ignore it for the
moment. When writing packet-oriented drivers for sound subsystem, you
need to pay special attention to accuracy of the number of PCM frames
transferred currently, and granularity of the number of PCM frames
transferred by one operation. In this case, snd_avb_hw,
snd_avb_pcm_pointer(), tsn_buffer_write_net() and tsn_buffer_read_net()
are involved in this discussion. You can see ALSA developers' struggle
in USB audio device class drivers and (of cource) IEC 61883-1/6 drivers.)


Regards

Takashi Sakamoto

  reply	other threads:[~2016-06-12  4:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-06-11 23:01 [very-RFC 0/8] TSN driver for the kernel Henrik Austad
2016-06-11 23:01 ` [very-RFC 1/8] TSN: add documentation Henrik Austad
2016-06-11 23:01 ` [very-RFC 2/8] TSN: Add the standard formerly known as AVB to the kernel Henrik Austad
2016-06-11 23:01 ` [very-RFC 3/8] Adding TSN-driver to Intel I210 controller Henrik Austad
2016-06-11 23:01 ` [very-RFC 4/8] Add TSN header for the driver Henrik Austad
2016-06-11 23:01 ` [very-RFC 5/8] Add TSN machinery to drive the traffic from a shim over the network Henrik Austad
2016-06-11 23:01 ` [very-RFC 6/8] Add TSN event-tracing Henrik Austad
2016-06-12 16:58   ` Steven Rostedt
2016-06-12 21:25     ` Henrik Austad
2016-06-13  2:22       ` Steven Rostedt
2016-06-13  7:20         ` Henrik Austad
2016-06-11 23:01 ` [very-RFC 7/8] AVB ALSA - Add ALSA shim for TSN Henrik Austad
2016-06-15 11:49   ` Richard Cochran
2016-06-15 12:13     ` Henrik Austad
2016-06-15 12:43       ` Richard Cochran
2016-06-11 23:01 ` [very-RFC 8/8] MAINTAINERS: add TSN/AVB-entries Henrik Austad
2016-06-12  3:38 ` [very-RFC 0/8] TSN driver for the kernel Takashi Sakamoto
2016-06-12  4:30   ` Takashi Sakamoto [this message]
2016-06-12  8:31     ` Henrik Austad
2016-06-12 10:43       ` Takashi Sakamoto
2016-06-12 22:06         ` Henrik Austad
2016-06-12  8:28   ` Henrik Austad
2016-06-12  9:14     ` Takashi Sakamoto
2016-06-13 11:47 ` Richard Cochran
2016-06-13 13:00   ` Henrik Austad
2016-06-13 19:32     ` Richard Cochran
2016-06-14  9:30       ` Henrik Austad
2016-06-14 18:26         ` Richard Cochran
2016-06-14 20:38           ` Henrik Austad
2016-06-15  7:04             ` Richard Cochran
2016-06-15  7:50               ` Henrik Austad
2016-06-15 11:41               ` Richard Cochran
2016-06-15  7:11             ` Richard Cochran
2016-06-13 19:37     ` Richard Cochran
2016-06-13 13:12   ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-06-13 15:56   ` John Fastabend
2016-06-14  8:35     ` Henrik Austad
2016-06-13 19:51   ` Richard Cochran
2016-06-14 11:18     ` One Thousand Gnomes
2016-06-14 17:04       ` Richard Cochran
2016-06-15  3:15       ` Takashi Sakamoto
2016-06-15  8:06         ` Richard Cochran
2016-06-18  5:22           ` Takashi Sakamoto
2016-06-18 22:45             ` Henrik Austad
2016-06-19  9:46               ` Richard Cochran
2016-06-20  8:05                 ` Henrik Austad
2016-06-19 14:45               ` Takashi Sakamoto
2016-06-20  9:06                 ` Henrik Austad
2016-06-21  2:22                   ` Takashi Sakamoto
2016-06-20 11:08               ` [alsa-devel] " Pierre-Louis Bossart
2016-06-20 11:49                 ` Henrik Austad
2016-06-20 12:18                 ` Richard Cochran
2016-06-20 12:31                   ` Richard Cochran
2016-06-20 15:21                     ` Richard Cochran
2016-06-21  5:54                       ` Takashi Iwai
2016-06-21  6:38                         ` Richard Cochran
2016-06-21  6:45                           ` Takashi Iwai
2016-06-21 17:18                     ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2016-06-21 17:45                   ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2016-06-21 19:40                     ` Richard Cochran
2016-06-22 12:36                       ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2016-06-23 10:38                     ` Henrik Austad
2016-06-23 13:28                       ` Richard Cochran
2016-06-15  3:27       ` Takashi Sakamoto
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2016-06-11 22:22 Henrik Austad
2016-06-11 22:49 ` Henrik Austad

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