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From: Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>
To: Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@s-opensource.com>
Cc: Oliver Neukum <oneukum@suse.com>,
	David Mosberger <davidm@egauge.net>,
	Jaejoong Kim <climbbb.kim@gmail.com>,
	Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@infradead.org>,
	Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@kernel.org>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	linux-rpi-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Wolfram Sang <wsa-dev@sang-engineering.com>,
	John Youn <johnyoun@synopsys.com>, Roger Quadros <rogerq@ti.com>,
	Linux Doc Mailing List <linux-doc@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Media Mailing List <linux-media@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-usb@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 22/22] usb: document that URB transfer_buffer should be aligned
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2017 15:05:30 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6163606.hRdPdWigB9@avalon> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170330072800.5ee8bc33@vento.lan>

Hi Mauro,

On Thursday 30 Mar 2017 07:28:00 Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
> Em Thu, 30 Mar 2017 12:34:32 +0300 Laurent Pinchart escreveu:
> > On Thursday 30 Mar 2017 10:11:31 Oliver Neukum wrote:
> >> Am Donnerstag, den 30.03.2017, 01:15 +0300 schrieb Laurent Pinchart:
> >>>> +   may also override PAD bytes at the end of the
> >>>> ``transfer_buffer``, up to the
> >>>> +   size of the CPU word.
> >>> 
> >>> "May" is quite weak here. If some host controller drivers require
> >>> buffers to be aligned, then it's an API requirement, and all buffers
> >>> must be aligned. I'm not even sure I would mention that some host
> >>> drivers require it, I think we should just state that the API requires
> >>> buffers to be aligned.
> >> 
> >> That effectively changes the API. Many network drivers are written with
> >> the assumption that any contiguous buffer is valid. In fact you could
> >> argue that those drivers are buggy and must use bounce buffers in those
> >> cases.
> 
> Blaming the dwc2 driver was my first approach, but such patch got nacked ;)
> 
> Btw, the dwc2 driver has a routine that creates a temporary buffer if the
> buffer pointer is not DWORD aligned. My first approach were to add
> a logic there to also use the temporary buffer if the buffer size is
> not DWORD aligned:
> 	https://patchwork.linuxtv.org/patch/40093/
> 
> While debugging this issue, I saw *a lot* of network-generated URB
> traffic from RPi3 Ethernet port drivers that were using non-aligned
> buffers and were subject to the temporary buffer conversion.
> 
> My understanding here is that having a temporary bounce buffer sucks,
> as the performance and latency are affected. So, I see the value of
> adding this constraint to the API, pushing the task of getting
> aligned buffers to the USB drivers,

This could however degrade performances when the HCD can handle unaligned 
buffers.

> but you're right: that means a lot of work, as all USB drivers should be
> reviewed.

If we decide in the end to push the constraint on the USB device driver side, 
then the dwc2 HCD driver should return an error when the buffer isn't 
correctly aligned.

> Btw, I'm a lot more concerned about USB storage drivers. When I was
> discussing about this issue at the #raspberrypi-devel IRC channel,
> someone complained that, after switching from the RPi downstream Kernel
> to upstream, his USB data storage got corrupted. Well, if the USB
> storage drivers also assume that the buffer can be continuous,
> that can corrupt data.
> 
> That's why I think that being verbose here is a good idea.
> 
> I'll rework on this patch to put more emphasis about this issue.
> 
> >> So we need to include the full story here.
> > 
> > I personally don't care much about whose side is responsible for handling
> > the alignment constraints, but I want it to be documented before "fixing"
> > any USB driver.

-- 
Regards,

Laurent Pinchart

  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-03-30 12:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-03-29 18:54 [PATCH 01/22] driver-api/basics.rst: add device table header Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-03-29 18:54 ` [PATCH 02/22] docs-rst: convert usb docbooks to ReST Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-03-30  7:48   ` Markus Heiser
2017-03-30  8:21     ` Jani Nikula
2017-03-30  9:20       ` Markus Heiser
2017-03-30 10:12         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-03-30 11:17           ` Markus Heiser
2017-03-30 11:35             ` Markus Heiser
2017-03-30 12:10             ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-03-31 14:46         ` Jonathan Corbet
2017-03-29 18:54 ` [PATCH 03/22] usb.rst: Enrich its ReST representation Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-03-29 18:54 ` [PATCH 04/22] gadget.rst: Enrich its ReST representation and add kernel-doc tag Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-03-30  7:01   ` Jani Nikula
2017-03-30  7:04     ` Jani Nikula
2017-03-30  9:29       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-03-30  8:45     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-03-29 18:54 ` [PATCH 05/22] writing_usb_driver.rst: Enrich its ReST representation Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-03-29 18:54 ` [PATCH 06/22] writing_musb_glue_layer.rst: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-03-29 18:54 ` [PATCH 07/22] usb/anchors.txt: convert to ReST and add to driver-api book Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-03-29 18:54 ` [PATCH 08/22] usb/bulk-streams.txt: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-03-29 18:54 ` [PATCH 09/22] usb/callbacks.txt: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-03-29 18:54 ` [PATCH 10/22] usb/power-management.txt: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-03-29 18:54 ` [PATCH 11/22] usb/dma.txt: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-03-29 18:54 ` [PATCH 12/22] error-codes.rst: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-03-29 18:54 ` [PATCH 13/22] usb/hotplug.txt: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-03-29 18:54 ` [PATCH 14/22] usb/persist.txt: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-03-29 18:54 ` [PATCH 15/22] usb/URB.txt: convert to ReST and update it Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-03-29 18:54 ` [PATCH 16/22] usb/gadget.rst: remove unused kernel-doc tags Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-03-29 18:54 ` [PATCH 17/22] usb.rst: get rid of some Sphinx errors Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-03-29 18:54 ` [PATCH 18/22] usb: get rid of some ReST doc build errors Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-03-29 18:54 ` [PATCH 19/22] usb: composite.h: fix two warnings when building docs Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-03-29 18:54 ` [PATCH 20/22] usb: gadget.h: be consistent at kernel doc macros Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-03-29 18:54 ` [PATCH 21/22] docs-rst: fix usb cross-references Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-03-29 18:54 ` [PATCH 22/22] usb: document that URB transfer_buffer should be aligned Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-03-29 22:15   ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-03-30  1:06     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-03-30  9:38       ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-03-30 10:51         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-03-30  8:11     ` Oliver Neukum
2017-03-30  9:34       ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-03-30 10:28         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-03-30 11:07           ` David Laight
2017-03-30 12:05           ` Laurent Pinchart [this message]
2017-03-30 12:37             ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-03-30 12:56           ` Oliver Neukum
2017-03-30 14:26             ` Alan Stern
2017-03-30 15:45               ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-03-30 15:55                 ` Alan Stern
2017-03-30 20:16                   ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-03-30 20:57                   ` Oliver Neukum
2017-03-31 14:07                     ` Alan Stern
2017-03-31  1:26 ` [PATCH 01/22] driver-api/basics.rst: add device table header kbuild test robot

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