From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from out-183.mta0.migadu.com (out-183.mta0.migadu.com [91.218.175.183]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C06493FFD for ; Thu, 16 Jul 2026 00:03:56 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=91.218.175.183 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1784160239; cv=none; b=kibxFK0JD1iF0aI4WO6jL4X1RtEANXZQuzv7O+hOhDESkJkI/eXLmM6oUyNpRO3MkfXWqbc1n1LAuqdGVNZa5oDDxNlrwyS4wbtm8u4NY2i0+L4EBzDAhiDA4a2jUpglnn2X3SsDm7PdpvtZcQx71GH1g2gjW1ciK5wYcRrFq3o= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1784160239; c=relaxed/simple; bh=nr9gFNyf0XSB0zuAGXQEiNouNiydZSu22N6SCJb+QkA=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:Message-ID: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=efZ0LQu+OtVqQbrlIvLGMUygjl259u4iJJlIWU1JOWj97+IU2RbFnodV8k38EYtmXVaiFpVjo3InMCsxQVg9s96WKMfWgZWNR8uaq7KpXBTYcFeo593Yvy0ndF2Tru8R+CQgGCzzAF7GLU9udaBV3TUxELyMvWaOJAQlMoROTWM= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=linux.dev; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=linux.dev; dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=linux.dev header.i=@linux.dev header.b=qc/GlVNE; arc=none smtp.client-ip=91.218.175.183 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=linux.dev Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=linux.dev Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=linux.dev header.i=@linux.dev header.b="qc/GlVNE" X-Report-Abuse: Please report any abuse attempt to abuse@migadu.com and include these headers. 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In-Reply-To: <20260715193228.758ab2be@robin> (Steven Rostedt's message of "Wed, 15 Jul 2026 19:32:28 -0400") References: <20260710083845.23c753ca@foz.lan> <87wlv2jq4t.fsf@linux.dev> <20260713095538.3d5e86f1@foz.lan> <20260713094120.GD1127719@killaraus.ideasonboard.com> <20260713220427.582b28bf@foz.lan> <7ia4mrvtrxjl.fsf@castle.c.googlers.com> <20260715005909.GF1656185@killaraus.ideasonboard.com> <20260715161111.GC1778116@killaraus.ideasonboard.com> <20260715202808.GN1778116@killaraus.ideasonboard.com> <20260715193228.758ab2be@robin> Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2026 00:03:34 +0000 Message-ID: <7ia4bjc7x0kp.fsf@castle.c.googlers.com> Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: linux-media@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_OUT Steven Rostedt writes: > On Wed, 15 Jul 2026 23:28:08 +0300 > Laurent Pinchart wrote: > >> I feel that justifying myself against generative AI hallucinations that >> are blindly trusted by maintainers makes me feel diminished as a human. > > I like to read the Sashiko reviews and look for issues with it. This is > why I *want* the email to the mailing list. It's so much easier to > reply to the Sashiko review in an email and point out where it's just > wrong and point out what I want the author of the patch to fix. > > I've been using the "copy" icon to paste the reviews in emails back to > the author[*]. > >> >> No later than yesterday a friend of mine pointed me to a mail thread >> where sashiko referenced code that has never existed in the kernel, and >> the maintainer blindly trusted the comment and asked the patch author to >> fix that issue, seemingly doubling down when told the code didn't exist. > > This looks to me as a issue with a maintainer needing to be educated > about AI tooling. Just like I get AI slop and need to tell people the > AI is wrong, we need to look at maintainers to keep them from getting > lazy and just accepting what the AI review says. > > -- Steve > > [*] Roman, the paste from the copy icon appears to remove blank lines. > This makes the output difficult to read as everything is bunched > together. I typically go through and manually add back those blank > lines. Is this a known issue? Can it be fixed? > > Of course, if I now have Sashiko replying to the tracing mailing > list, I may not need to use that feature anymore. I've created https://github.com/sashiko-dev/sashiko/issues/327 to track this issue. I'm not sure if it's Sashiko or browser/OS's handling of the paste buffer, but I'll take a look. Thanks!