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From: Mostafa Saleh <smostafa@google.com>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
Cc: Jiri Pirko <jiri@resnulli.us>,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,  linaro-mm-sig@lists.linaro.org,
	iommu@lists.linux.dev,  linux-media@vger.kernel.org,
	sumit.semwal@linaro.org,  benjamin.gaignard@collabora.com,
	Brian.Starkey@arm.com, jstultz@google.com,  tjmercier@google.com,
	christian.koenig@amd.com, m.szyprowski@samsung.com,
	 robin.murphy@arm.com, leon@kernel.org, sean.anderson@linux.dev,
	 ptesarik@suse.com, catalin.marinas@arm.com,
	aneesh.kumar@kernel.org,  suzuki.poulose@arm.com,
	steven.price@arm.com, thomas.lendacky@amd.com,
	 john.allen@amd.com, ashish.kalra@amd.com,
	suravee.suthikulpanit@amd.com,  linux-coco@lists.linux.dev
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v3 0/2] dma-buf: heaps: system: add an option to allocate explicitly decrypted memory
Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2026 18:32:16 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAFgf54pB1pikjtx588khBAXDg4vHne+tJL6gBqF64buX0K93mQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260324175717.GE8437@ziepe.ca>

On Tue, Mar 24, 2026 at 5:57 PM Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Mar 24, 2026 at 05:36:23PM +0000, Mostafa Saleh wrote:
> > But it's not about drivers in that case, it's about many places
> > (SWIOTLB and DMA-direct) calling set_memory_decrypted() without clear
> > ownership so in some cases they step on each other's toes, and I don't
> > think that will get simpler with yet another caller in this series
>
> I don't understand how this can be, ownership is clear. SWIOTLB owns
> the buffer, dma alloc coherent owns the buffer, user owns the
> buffer. There should be no other cases, and they don't step on each
> other unless the APIs are being used wrong.
>

Logically, that's the case, but the DMA-direct code currently loses
this information and assumes it can encrypt/decrypt any memory even
the SWIOTLB one.
That's what I am fixing in my series. When I respin, I can try to
introduce some more helpers around that to make it easier to integrate
new cases.

Thanks,
Mostafa

> > I am fine with the API design you mentioned, but I believe that it
> > needs clear documentation specifying who is responsible for
> > decryption. The code should provide wrappers checking for these cases
> > instead of having is_swiotlb_for_alloc() and force_dma_unencrypted()
> > everywhere in DMA-direct.
>
> Redoingt how dma-api works internally is some other project... It
> would be nice if swiotlb would sort of recursively DMA map using the
> new flag instead of open coding it but that is pretty minor.
>
> Jason

      reply	other threads:[~2026-03-24 18:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-03-05 12:36 [PATCH net-next v3 0/2] dma-buf: heaps: system: add an option to allocate explicitly decrypted memory Jiri Pirko
2026-03-05 12:36 ` [PATCH net-next v3 1/2] dma-mapping: introduce DMA_ATTR_CC_DECRYPTED for pre-decrypted memory Jiri Pirko
2026-03-08 10:19   ` Leon Romanovsky
2026-03-09  8:57     ` Jiri Pirko
2026-03-09 13:15     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-03-09 14:02       ` Leon Romanovsky
2026-03-09 15:18         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-03-09 17:51           ` Jiri Pirko
2026-03-12  0:34             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-03-12  9:03               ` Jiri Pirko
2026-03-12 12:06                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-03-12 13:27                   ` Jiri Pirko
2026-03-09 12:56   ` Petr Tesarik
2026-03-09 13:01     ` Jiri Pirko
2026-03-09 13:17     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-03-11 14:19       ` Jiri Pirko
2026-03-05 12:36 ` [PATCH net-next v3 2/2] dma-buf: heaps: system: add system_cc_decrypted heap for explicitly decrypted memory Jiri Pirko
2026-03-09 15:39   ` Peter Gonda
2026-03-09 15:50     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-03-05 12:40 ` [PATCH net-next v3 0/2] dma-buf: heaps: system: add an option to allocate " Jiri Pirko
2026-03-17 13:24 ` Mostafa Saleh
2026-03-17 13:37   ` Jiri Pirko
2026-03-17 15:40     ` Mostafa Saleh
2026-03-24 12:00   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-03-24 12:14     ` Mostafa Saleh
2026-03-24 12:24       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-03-24 17:36         ` Mostafa Saleh
2026-03-24 17:57           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-03-24 18:32             ` Mostafa Saleh [this message]

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