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From: Guennadi Liakhovetski <g.liakhovetski@gmx.de>
To: Barry Song <21cnbao@gmail.com>
Cc: Sylwester Nawrocki <sylvester.nawrocki@gmail.com>,
	Mark Brown <broonie@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com>,
	linux-media@vger.kernel.org, linux-sh@vger.kernel.org,
	devicetree-discuss@lists.ozlabs.org,
	Magnus Damm <magnus.damm@gmail.com>,
	Hans Verkuil <hverkuil@xs4all.nl>,
	Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>,
	"renwei.wu" <renwei.wu@csr.com>,
	DL-SHA-WorkGroupLinux <workgroup.linux@csr.com>,
	xiaomeng.hou@csr.com, zilong.wu@csr.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 07/14] media: soc-camera: support deferred probing of clients
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 16:43:21 +0200 (CEST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.1304101637300.13557@axis700.grange> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGsJ_4z-FnbHtmbi16YD5LmYfpL+=ngke8EgkPHWy_PJ8QBPNg@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, 10 Apr 2013, Barry Song wrote:

> 2013/4/10 Guennadi Liakhovetski <g.liakhovetski@gmx.de>:
> > On Wed, 10 Apr 2013, Barry Song wrote:

[snip]

> >> > This cannot work, because some I2C devices, e.g. sensors, need a clock
> >> > signal from the camera interface to probe. Before the bridge driver has
> >> > completed its probing and registered a suitable clock source with the
> >> > v4l2-clk framework, sensors cannot be probed. And no, we don't want to
> >> > fake successful probing without actually being able to talk to the
> >> > hardware.
> >>
> >> i'd say same dependency also exists on ASoC.  a "fake" successful
> >> probing doesn't mean it should really begin to work if there is no
> >> external trigger source.  ASoC has successfully done that by a machine
> >> driver to connect all DAI.
> >> a way is we put all things ready in their places, finally we connect
> >> them together and launch the whole hardware flow.
> >>
> >> anyway, if you have maken the things work by some simple hacking and
> >> that means minimial changes to current soc-camera, i think we can
> >> follow.
> >
> > If you want to volunteer to step up as a new soc-camera maintainer to
> > replace my simple hacking with your comprehencive and advanced designs -
> > feel free, I'll ack straight away.
> 
> i am not sure whether you agree the new way or not. if you also agree
> this is a better way,

In fact I don't.

> i think we can do something to move ahead. i
> need sync and get input from you expert :-)

I suggest you read all the mailing list discussions of these topics over 
last months / years, conference discussion protocols instead of restarting 
a beaten to death topic at the v8 time-frame.

Thanks
Guennadi
---
Guennadi Liakhovetski, Ph.D.
Freelance Open-Source Software Developer
http://www.open-technology.de/

  reply	other threads:[~2013-04-10 14:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <1348754853-28619-1-git-send-email-g.liakhovetski@gmx.de>
     [not found] ` <1348754853-28619-6-git-send-email-g.liakhovetski@gmx.de>
2012-10-01 21:37   ` [PATCH 05/14] media: add a V4L2 OF parser Sylwester Nawrocki
2012-10-02  9:49     ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2012-10-02 10:13       ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2012-10-02 11:04         ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2012-10-05 10:41         ` Hans Verkuil
2012-10-05 10:58           ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2012-10-05 11:23             ` Hans Verkuil
2012-10-05 11:35               ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2012-10-08 12:23               ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2012-10-08 13:48                 ` Hans Verkuil
2012-10-08 14:30                   ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2012-10-08 14:53                     ` Hans Verkuil
2012-10-08 15:15                       ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2012-10-08 15:41                         ` Hans Verkuil
2012-10-08 15:53                           ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2012-10-08 16:00                             ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2012-10-10 13:22                           ` Laurent Pinchart
2012-10-10 13:18                         ` Laurent Pinchart
2012-10-10 16:50                           ` Stephen Warren
2012-10-10 22:51                             ` Laurent Pinchart
2012-10-11 16:15                               ` Stephen Warren
2012-10-10 13:12                       ` Laurent Pinchart
2012-10-10 12:54                 ` Laurent Pinchart
2012-10-10 13:45                   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-10-10 14:48                     ` Laurent Pinchart
2012-10-10 14:57                       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-10-10 15:15                         ` Laurent Pinchart
2012-10-11 19:48                 ` Sakari Ailus
2012-10-13  0:16                   ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2012-10-05 18:30             ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2012-10-05 18:45               ` Mark Brown
2012-10-08  9:40               ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2012-10-09 10:34                 ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2012-10-09 11:00                   ` Hans Verkuil
2012-10-10 13:25                     ` Laurent Pinchart
2012-10-10 20:23                       ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2012-10-10 20:32                         ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2012-10-10 21:12                           ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2012-10-10 23:05                           ` Laurent Pinchart
2012-10-10 22:58                         ` Laurent Pinchart
2012-10-08 21:30             ` Laurent Pinchart
2012-10-08 10:03   ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2012-10-05 12:32 ` [PATCH 00/14] V4L2 DT support Sylwester Nawrocki
2012-10-05 14:41   ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
     [not found] ` <1348754853-28619-5-git-send-email-g.liakhovetski@gmx.de>
2012-10-01 20:45   ` [PATCH 04/14] media: add V4L2 DT binding documentation Sylwester Nawrocki
2012-10-02 14:15   ` Rob Herring
2012-10-02 14:33     ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2012-10-03 20:54       ` Rob Herring
2012-10-05  9:43         ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2012-10-05 11:31           ` Hans Verkuil
2012-10-05 11:37             ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2012-10-08 20:00       ` Stephen Warren
2012-10-08 21:00         ` Laurent Pinchart
2012-10-08 21:14           ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2012-10-09  9:21             ` Hans Verkuil
2012-10-09  9:29               ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2012-10-05 15:10   ` Sascha Hauer
2012-10-05 15:41     ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2012-10-05 16:02       ` Sascha Hauer
2012-10-08  7:58         ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2012-10-10  8:40           ` Sascha Hauer
2012-10-10  8:51             ` Mark Brown
2012-10-10  9:21               ` Sascha Hauer
2012-10-10 10:46                 ` Mark Brown
2012-10-08 20:12   ` Stephen Warren
     [not found] ` <1348754853-28619-11-git-send-email-g.liakhovetski@gmx.de>
2012-10-05 19:11   ` [PATCH 10/14] media: soc-camera: support OF cameras Sylwester Nawrocki
2012-10-08  8:37     ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2012-10-08  9:28       ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2013-04-08  9:19   ` Barry Song
2013-04-08 11:21     ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2013-04-08 11:49       ` Barry Song
     [not found] ` <1348754853-28619-8-git-send-email-g.liakhovetski@gmx.de>
2013-04-10 10:38   ` [PATCH 07/14] media: soc-camera: support deferred probing of clients Barry Song
2013-04-10 12:06     ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2013-04-10 13:53       ` Barry Song
2013-04-10 13:56         ` Mark Brown
2013-04-10 14:00           ` Barry Song
2013-04-10 14:03         ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2013-04-10 14:30           ` Barry Song
2013-04-10 14:43             ` Guennadi Liakhovetski [this message]
2013-04-10 15:02               ` Barry Song

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