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From: Sakari Ailus <sakari.ailus@linux.intel.com>
To: Bingbu Cao <bingbu.cao@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>,
	Wentong Wu <wentong.wu@intel.com>,
	mchehab@kernel.org, linux-media@vger.kernel.org,
	srinivas.pandruvada@intel.com,
	pierre-louis.bossart@linux.intel.com, zhifeng.wang@intel.com,
	xiang.ye@intel.com, tian.shu.qiu@intel.com, bingbu.cao@intel.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/3] media: pci: intel: ivsc: Add driver of Intel Visual Sensing Controller(IVSC)
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2023 15:12:21 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y+4rtSMArg5ow0Sh@kekkonen.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <00c5c16e-c94e-a328-06d9-5f09ad35258d@linux.intel.com>

Hi Bingbu, Wentong,

On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 08:09:50PM +0800, Bingbu Cao wrote:
> 
> Hi, Wentong,
> 
> On 2/15/23 5:43 PM, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> > Hello Wentong,
> > 
> > On Mon, Feb 13, 2023 at 10:23:44AM +0800, Wentong Wu wrote:
> >> Intel Visual Sensing Controller (IVSC), codenamed "Clover Falls", is a
> >> companion chip designed to provide secure and low power vision capability
> >> to IA platforms. IVSC is available in existing commercial platforms from
> >> multiple OEMs.
> >>
> >> The primary use case of IVSC is to bring in context awareness. IVSC
> >> interfaces directly with the platform main camera sensor via a CSI-2 link
> >> and processes the image data with the embedded AI engine. The detected
> >> events are sent over I2C to ISH (Intel Sensor Hub) for additional data
> >> fusion from multiple sensors. The fusion results are used to implement
> >> advanced use cases like:
> >>  - Face detection to unlock screen
> >>  - Detect user presence to manage backlight setting or waking up system
> > 
> > Do you have plan to support these features in the ivsc driver in the
> > future ?
> > 
> >> Since the Image Processing Unit(IPU) used on the host processor needs to
> >> configure the CSI-2 link in normal camera usages, the CSI-2 link and
> >> camera sensor can only be used in mutually-exclusive ways by host IPU and
> >> IVSC. By default the IVSC owns the CSI-2 link and camera sensor. The IPU
> >> driver can take ownership of the CSI-2 link and camera sensor using
> >> interfaces provided by this IVSC driver.
> >>
> >> Switching ownership requires an interface with two different hardware
> >> modules inside IVSC. The software interface to these modules is via Intel
> >> MEI (The Intel Management Engine) commands. These two hardware modules
> >> have two different MEI UUIDs to enumerate. These hardware modules are:
> >>  - ACE (Algorithm Context Engine): This module is for algorithm computing
> >> when IVSC owns camera sensor. Also ACE module controls camera sensor's
> >> ownership. This hardware module is used to set ownership of camera sensor.
> >>  - CSI (Camera Serial Interface): This module is used to route camera
> >> sensor data either to IVSC or to host for IPU driver and application.
> >>
> >> IVSC also provides a privacy mode. When privacy mode is turned on,
> >> camera sensor can't be used. This means that both ACE and host IPU can't
> >> get image data. And when this mode is turned on, host IPU driver is
> >> informed via a registered callback, so that user can be notified.
> > 
> > How does the privacy mode work, and how can the user trust that the
> > closed-source IVSC and IME firmwares will honour the privacy settings ?
> >
> 
> Continue with question from Laurent,
> 
> How IVSC handle the privacy request from user? Is there some notification
> mechanism to user-space? I'd have concern if IVSC driver need private callback
> to request back-end(e.g. ISP driver) to handle stream cutting.

How does the privacy mode work, does it just pass zeroes (or other dummy
data) towards the host or nothing?

A V4L2 control can be used for the purpose of passing the information to
the user space at least.

-- 
Regards,

Sakari Ailus

  reply	other threads:[~2023-02-16 13:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-02-13  2:23 [PATCH v2 0/3] media: pci: intel: ivsc: Add driver of Intel Visual Sensing Controller(IVSC) Wentong Wu
2023-02-13  2:23 ` [PATCH v2 1/3] media: pci: intel: ivsc: Add CSI submodule Wentong Wu
2023-02-14 21:32   ` Sakari Ailus
2023-02-13  2:23 ` [PATCH v2 2/3] media: pci: intel: ivsc: Add ACE submodule Wentong Wu
2023-02-13  2:23 ` [PATCH v2 3/3] media: pci: intel: ivsc: Add acquire/release API for ivsc Wentong Wu
2023-02-14 16:06   ` Sakari Ailus
2023-02-15  9:03     ` Hans de Goede
2023-02-15  9:45       ` Laurent Pinchart
2023-02-17  6:10         ` Wu, Wentong
2023-02-17 11:19           ` Laurent Pinchart
2023-02-20  3:50             ` Wu, Wentong
2023-02-20  8:36               ` Sakari Ailus
2023-02-20  8:57                 ` Wu, Wentong
2023-02-20  9:03                   ` Hans de Goede
2023-03-01  0:09                     ` Laurent Pinchart
2023-02-28  6:42             ` Wu, Wentong
2023-02-28  6:35     ` Wu, Wentong
2023-02-28  8:23       ` Sakari Ailus
2023-03-01  7:26         ` Wu, Wentong
2023-03-01 11:11           ` Sakari Ailus
2023-02-13  3:20 ` [PATCH v2 0/3] media: pci: intel: ivsc: Add driver of Intel Visual Sensing Controller(IVSC) Pandruvada, Srinivas
2023-02-14  6:34   ` Wu, Wentong
     [not found] ` <20230213034202.2926-1-hdanton@sina.com>
2023-02-14  6:25   ` [PATCH v2 1/3] media: pci: intel: ivsc: Add CSI submodule Wu, Wentong
     [not found]   ` <20230214083533.3410-1-hdanton@sina.com>
2023-02-14 12:40     ` Wu, Wentong
     [not found]     ` <20230214235405.3587-1-hdanton@sina.com>
2023-02-17  5:52       ` Wu, Wentong
     [not found]       ` <20230217062815.1682-1-hdanton@sina.com>
2023-02-17  7:37         ` Wu, Wentong
2023-02-15  9:43 ` [PATCH v2 0/3] media: pci: intel: ivsc: Add driver of Intel Visual Sensing Controller(IVSC) Laurent Pinchart
2023-02-15 12:09   ` Bingbu Cao
2023-02-16 13:12     ` Sakari Ailus [this message]
2023-02-17  1:43       ` Bingbu Cao
2023-02-17  6:28         ` Wu, Wentong
2023-02-17 10:49           ` Sakari Ailus
2023-02-20  3:45             ` Wu, Wentong
2023-02-17  6:20   ` Wu, Wentong
2023-02-17 11:12     ` Laurent Pinchart
2023-02-20  4:00       ` Wu, Wentong
2023-03-01 10:34 ` Sakari Ailus
2023-03-01 10:41   ` Hans de Goede
2023-03-07  8:17     ` Wu, Wentong
2023-03-07  8:30       ` Sakari Ailus
2023-03-07  8:40         ` Wu, Wentong
2023-03-07  9:10           ` Hans de Goede
2023-03-09  1:08             ` Wu, Wentong
2023-03-09  9:28               ` Hans de Goede
2023-03-09 13:21                 ` Wu, Wentong
2023-03-09 15:24                   ` Hans de Goede
2023-03-16  2:58                     ` Wu, Wentong
2023-03-16  9:03                       ` Hans de Goede
2023-03-17  7:30                         ` Wu, Wentong
2023-03-17  8:58                           ` Sakari Ailus
2023-03-19 13:09                             ` Wu, Wentong
2023-03-16  8:11                     ` Wu, Wentong
2023-03-16  8:37                       ` Hans de Goede
2023-03-03  6:10   ` Wu, Wentong

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