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From: Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>
To: "Wu, Wentong" <wentong.wu@intel.com>
Cc: "mchehab@kernel.org" <mchehab@kernel.org>,
	"sakari.ailus@linux.intel.com" <sakari.ailus@linux.intel.com>,
	"linux-media@vger.kernel.org" <linux-media@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Pandruvada, Srinivas" <srinivas.pandruvada@intel.com>,
	"pierre-louis.bossart@linux.intel.com" 
	<pierre-louis.bossart@linux.intel.com>,
	"Wang, Zhifeng" <zhifeng.wang@intel.com>,
	"Ye, Xiang" <xiang.ye@intel.com>,
	"Qiu, Tian Shu" <tian.shu.qiu@intel.com>,
	"Cao, Bingbu" <bingbu.cao@intel.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/3] media: pci: intel: ivsc: Add driver of Intel Visual Sensing Controller(IVSC)
Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2023 13:12:10 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y+9hCuGneJUrLrgi@pendragon.ideasonboard.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DM6PR11MB4316E7241D6F11CC4121AFC98DA19@DM6PR11MB4316.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>

Hello Wentong,

On Fri, Feb 17, 2023 at 06:20:10AM +0000, Wu, Wentong wrote:
> On Wednesday, February 15, 2023 5:43 PM, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> > On Mon, Feb 13, 2023 at 10:23:44AM +0800, Wentong Wu wrote:
> > > Intel Visual Sensing Controller (IVSC), codenamed "Clover Falls", is a
> > > companion chip designed to provide secure and low power vision
> > > capability to IA platforms. IVSC is available in existing commercial
> > > platforms from multiple OEMs.
> > >
> > > The primary use case of IVSC is to bring in context awareness. IVSC
> > > interfaces directly with the platform main camera sensor via a CSI-2
> > > link and processes the image data with the embedded AI engine. The
> > > detected events are sent over I2C to ISH (Intel Sensor Hub) for
> > > additional data fusion from multiple sensors. The fusion results are
> > > used to implement advanced use cases like:
> > >  - Face detection to unlock screen
> > >  - Detect user presence to manage backlight setting or waking up
> > > system
> > 
> > Do you have plan to support these features in the ivsc driver in the future ?
> 
> Not sure, but the first step is to upstream this driver.

Sure, no problem.

> > > Since the Image Processing Unit(IPU) used on the host processor needs
> > > to configure the CSI-2 link in normal camera usages, the CSI-2 link
> > > and camera sensor can only be used in mutually-exclusive ways by host
> > > IPU and IVSC. By default the IVSC owns the CSI-2 link and camera
> > > sensor. The IPU driver can take ownership of the CSI-2 link and camera
> > > sensor using interfaces provided by this IVSC driver.
> > >
> > > Switching ownership requires an interface with two different hardware
> > > modules inside IVSC. The software interface to these modules is via
> > > Intel MEI (The Intel Management Engine) commands. These two hardware
> > > modules have two different MEI UUIDs to enumerate. These hardware
> > > modules are:
> > >  - ACE (Algorithm Context Engine): This module is for algorithm
> > > computing when IVSC owns camera sensor. Also ACE module controls
> > > camera sensor's ownership. This hardware module is used to set ownership of
> > > camera sensor.
> > >  - CSI (Camera Serial Interface): This module is used to route camera
> > > sensor data either to IVSC or to host for IPU driver and application.
> > >
> > > IVSC also provides a privacy mode. When privacy mode is turned on,
> > > camera sensor can't be used. This means that both ACE and host IPU
> > > can't get image data. And when this mode is turned on, host IPU driver
> > > is informed via a registered callback, so that user can be notified.
> > 
> > How does the privacy mode work, and how can the user trust that the closed-
> > source IVSC and IME firmwares will honour the privacy settings ?
> 
> No camera data will be allowed to go through IVSC, and then there will
> be no data on IVSC CSI transmitter side. 

But how can I be sure that the IVSC will not use the camera behind my
back, if it's all controlled through a closed-source firmware ?

> > > In summary, to acquire ownership of camera by IPU driver, first ACE
> > > module needs to be informed of ownership and then to setup MIPI CSI-2
> > > link for the camera sensor and IPU.
> > >
> > > Implementation:
> > > There are two different drivers to handle ACE and CSI hardware modules
> > > inside IVSC.
> > >  - mei_csi: MEI client driver to send commands and receive notifications from CSI module.
> > >  - mei_ace: MEI client driver to send commands and get status from ACE module.
> > > Interface is exposed via ivsc.h to acquire and release camera sensor and
> > > CSI-2 link.
> > 
> > Do I understand correctly, from your diagram below, that the communication
> > between the IME and IVSC goes through SPI ?
> > 
> > > Below diagram shows connections of IVSC/ISH/IPU/Camera sensor.
> > > -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > | Host Processor                                                            |
> > > |                                                                           |
> > > |       -----------------       -----------------       ---------------     |
> > > |       |               |       |               |       |             | I2C |
> > > |       |      IPU      |       |      ISH      |       |camera driver|--|  |
> > > |       |               |       |               |       |             |  |  |
> > > |       -----------------       -----------------       ---------------  |  |
> > > |               |                       |                      |         |  |
> > > |               |                       |               ---------------  |  |
> > > |               |                       |               |             |  |  |
> > > |               |                       |               | IVSC driver |  |  |
> > > |               |                       |               |             |  |  |
> > > |               |                       |               ---------------  |  |
> > > |               |                       |                      |         |  |
> > > ----------------|-----------------------|----------------------|---------|---
> > >                 | CSI                   | I2C                  |SPI      |
> > >                 |                       |                      |         |
> > > ----------------|-----------------------|----------------      |         |
> > > | IVSC          |                                       |      |         |
> > > |               |                                       |      |         |
> > > |       -----------------       -----------------       |      |         |
> > > |       |               |       |               |       |      |         |
> > > |       |      CSI      |       |      ACE      |       |------|         |
> > > |       |               |       |               |       |                |
> > > |       -----------------       -----------------       |                |
> > > |               |                       | I2C           |                |
> > > ----------------|-----------------------|----------------                |
> > >                 | CSI                   |                                |
> > >                 |                       |                                |
> > >             --------------------------------                             |
> > >             |                              | I2C                         |
> > >             |         camera sensor        |-----------------------------|
> > >             |                              |
> > >             --------------------------------
> > >
> > > Wentong Wu (3):
> > >   media: pci: intel: ivsc: Add CSI submodule
> > >   media: pci: intel: ivsc: Add ACE submodule
> > >   media: pci: intel: ivsc: Add acquire/release API for ivsc
> > >
> > >  drivers/media/pci/Kconfig              |   1 +
> > >  drivers/media/pci/intel/Makefile       |   2 +
> > >  drivers/media/pci/intel/ivsc/Kconfig   |  12 +
> > >  drivers/media/pci/intel/ivsc/Makefile  |   7 +
> > >  drivers/media/pci/intel/ivsc/ivsc.c    |  84 +++++
> > >  drivers/media/pci/intel/ivsc/mei_ace.c | 472 +++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > >  drivers/media/pci/intel/ivsc/mei_ace.h |> 36 ++
> > >  drivers/media/pci/intel/ivsc/mei_csi.c | 342 ++++++++++++++++++
> > >  drivers/media/pci/intel/ivsc/mei_csi.h |  60 ++++
> > >  include/linux/ivsc.h                   |  74 ++++
> > >  10 files changed, 1090 insertions(+)
> > >  create mode 100644 drivers/media/pci/intel/ivsc/Kconfig
> > >  create mode 100644 drivers/media/pci/intel/ivsc/Makefile
> > >  create mode 100644 drivers/media/pci/intel/ivsc/ivsc.c
> > >  create mode 100644 drivers/media/pci/intel/ivsc/mei_ace.c
> > >  create mode 100644 drivers/media/pci/intel/ivsc/mei_ace.h
> > >  create mode 100644 drivers/media/pci/intel/ivsc/mei_csi.c
> > >  create mode 100644 drivers/media/pci/intel/ivsc/mei_csi.h
> > >  create mode 100644 include/linux/ivsc.h

-- 
Regards,

Laurent Pinchart

  reply	other threads:[~2023-02-17 11:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-02-13  2:23 [PATCH v2 0/3] media: pci: intel: ivsc: Add driver of Intel Visual Sensing Controller(IVSC) Wentong Wu
2023-02-13  2:23 ` [PATCH v2 1/3] media: pci: intel: ivsc: Add CSI submodule Wentong Wu
2023-02-14 21:32   ` Sakari Ailus
2023-02-13  2:23 ` [PATCH v2 2/3] media: pci: intel: ivsc: Add ACE submodule Wentong Wu
2023-02-13  2:23 ` [PATCH v2 3/3] media: pci: intel: ivsc: Add acquire/release API for ivsc Wentong Wu
2023-02-14 16:06   ` Sakari Ailus
2023-02-15  9:03     ` Hans de Goede
2023-02-15  9:45       ` Laurent Pinchart
2023-02-17  6:10         ` Wu, Wentong
2023-02-17 11:19           ` Laurent Pinchart
2023-02-20  3:50             ` Wu, Wentong
2023-02-20  8:36               ` Sakari Ailus
2023-02-20  8:57                 ` Wu, Wentong
2023-02-20  9:03                   ` Hans de Goede
2023-03-01  0:09                     ` Laurent Pinchart
2023-02-28  6:42             ` Wu, Wentong
2023-02-28  6:35     ` Wu, Wentong
2023-02-28  8:23       ` Sakari Ailus
2023-03-01  7:26         ` Wu, Wentong
2023-03-01 11:11           ` Sakari Ailus
2023-02-13  3:20 ` [PATCH v2 0/3] media: pci: intel: ivsc: Add driver of Intel Visual Sensing Controller(IVSC) Pandruvada, Srinivas
2023-02-14  6:34   ` Wu, Wentong
     [not found] ` <20230213034202.2926-1-hdanton@sina.com>
2023-02-14  6:25   ` [PATCH v2 1/3] media: pci: intel: ivsc: Add CSI submodule Wu, Wentong
     [not found]   ` <20230214083533.3410-1-hdanton@sina.com>
2023-02-14 12:40     ` Wu, Wentong
     [not found]     ` <20230214235405.3587-1-hdanton@sina.com>
2023-02-17  5:52       ` Wu, Wentong
     [not found]       ` <20230217062815.1682-1-hdanton@sina.com>
2023-02-17  7:37         ` Wu, Wentong
2023-02-15  9:43 ` [PATCH v2 0/3] media: pci: intel: ivsc: Add driver of Intel Visual Sensing Controller(IVSC) Laurent Pinchart
2023-02-15 12:09   ` Bingbu Cao
2023-02-16 13:12     ` Sakari Ailus
2023-02-17  1:43       ` Bingbu Cao
2023-02-17  6:28         ` Wu, Wentong
2023-02-17 10:49           ` Sakari Ailus
2023-02-20  3:45             ` Wu, Wentong
2023-02-17  6:20   ` Wu, Wentong
2023-02-17 11:12     ` Laurent Pinchart [this message]
2023-02-20  4:00       ` Wu, Wentong
2023-03-01 10:34 ` Sakari Ailus
2023-03-01 10:41   ` Hans de Goede
2023-03-07  8:17     ` Wu, Wentong
2023-03-07  8:30       ` Sakari Ailus
2023-03-07  8:40         ` Wu, Wentong
2023-03-07  9:10           ` Hans de Goede
2023-03-09  1:08             ` Wu, Wentong
2023-03-09  9:28               ` Hans de Goede
2023-03-09 13:21                 ` Wu, Wentong
2023-03-09 15:24                   ` Hans de Goede
2023-03-16  2:58                     ` Wu, Wentong
2023-03-16  9:03                       ` Hans de Goede
2023-03-17  7:30                         ` Wu, Wentong
2023-03-17  8:58                           ` Sakari Ailus
2023-03-19 13:09                             ` Wu, Wentong
2023-03-16  8:11                     ` Wu, Wentong
2023-03-16  8:37                       ` Hans de Goede
2023-03-03  6:10   ` Wu, Wentong

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