From: Paul Cercueil <paul@crapouillou.net>
To: Jonathan Cameron <jic23@kernel.org>
Cc: "Alexandru Ardelean" <ardeleanalex@gmail.com>,
"Lars-Peter Clausen" <lars@metafoo.de>,
"Michael Hennerich" <Michael.Hennerich@analog.com>,
"Sumit Semwal" <sumit.semwal@linaro.org>,
"Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>,
linux-iio@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-media@vger.kernel.org, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 11/15] iio: buffer-dma: Boost performance using write-combine cache setting
Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2021 17:29:58 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <YX153R.0PENWW3ING7F1@crapouillou.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8WNX2R.M4XE9MQC24W22@crapouillou.net>
Hi Jonathan,
Le dim., nov. 21 2021 at 17:43:20 +0000, Paul Cercueil
<paul@crapouillou.net> a écrit :
> Hi Jonathan,
>
> Le dim., nov. 21 2021 at 15:00:37 +0000, Jonathan Cameron
> <jic23@kernel.org> a écrit :
>> On Mon, 15 Nov 2021 14:19:21 +0000
>> Paul Cercueil <paul@crapouillou.net> wrote:
>>
>>> We can be certain that the input buffers will only be accessed by
>>> userspace for reading, and output buffers will mostly be accessed
>>> by
>>> userspace for writing.
>>
>> Mostly? Perhaps a little more info on why that's not 'only'.
>
> Just like with a framebuffer, it really depends on what the
> application does. Most of the cases it will just read sequentially an
> input buffer, or write sequentially an output buffer. But then you
> get the exotic application that will try to do something like alpha
> blending, which means read+write. Hence "mostly".
>
>>>
>>> Therefore, it makes more sense to use only fully cached input
>>> \x7f\x7fbuffers,
>>> and to use the write-combine cache coherency setting for output
>>> \x7f\x7fbuffers.
>>>
>>> This boosts performance, as the data written to the output buffers
>>> \x7f\x7fdoes
>>> not have to be sync'd for coherency. It will halve performance if
>>> \x7f\x7fthe
>>> userspace application tries to read from the output buffer, but
>>> this
>>> should never happen.
>>>
>>> Since we don't need to sync the cache when disabling CPU access
>>> \x7f\x7feither
>>> for input buffers or output buffers, the .end_cpu_access()
>>> callback \x7f\x7fcan
>>> be dropped completely.
>>
>> We have an odd mix of coherent and non coherent DMA in here as you
>> \x7fnoted,
>> but are you sure this is safe on all platforms?
>
> The mix isn't safe, but using only coherent or only non-coherent
> should be safe, yes.
>
>>
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Paul Cercueil <paul@crapouillou.net>
>>
>> Any numbers to support this patch? The mapping types are performance
>> optimisations so nice to know how much of a difference they make.
>
> Output buffers are definitely faster in write-combine mode. On a
> ZedBoard with a AD9361 transceiver set to 66 MSPS, and buffer/size
> set to 8192, I would get about 185 MiB/s before, 197 MiB/s after.
>
> Input buffers... early results are mixed. On ARM32 it does look like
> it is slightly faster to read from *uncached* memory than reading
> from cached memory. The cache sync does take a long time.
>
> Other architectures might have a different result, for instance on
> MIPS invalidating the cache is a very fast operation, so using cached
> buffers would be a huge win in performance.
>
> Setups where the DMA operations are coherent also wouldn't require
> any cache sync and this patch would give a huge win in performance.
>
> I'll run some more tests next week to have some fresh numbers.
I think I mixed things up before, because I get different results now.
Here are some fresh benchmarks, triple-checked, using libiio's
iio_readdev and iio_writedev tools, with 64K samples buffers at 61.44
MSPS (max. theorical throughput: 234 MiB/s):
iio_readdev -b 65536 cf-ad9361-lpc voltage0 voltage1 | pv > /dev/null
pv /dev/zero | iio_writedev -b 65536 cf-ad9361-dds-core-lpc voltage0
voltage1
Coherent mapping:
- fileio:
read: 125 MiB/s
write: 141 MiB/s
- dmabuf:
read: 171 MiB/s
write: 210 MiB/s
Coherent reads + Write-combine writes:
- fileio:
read: 125 MiB/s
write: 141 MiB/s
- dmabuf:
read: 171 MiB/s
write: 210 MiB/s
Non-coherent mapping:
- fileio:
read: 119 MiB/s
write: 124 MiB/s
- dmabuf:
read: 159 MiB/s
write: 124 MiB/s
Non-coherent reads + write-combine writes:
- fileio:
read: 119 MiB/s
write: 140 MiB/s
- dmabuf:
read: 159 MiB/s
write: 210 MiB/s
Non-coherent mapping with no cache sync:
- fileio:
read: 156 MiB/s
write: 123 MiB/s
- dmabuf:
read: 234 MiB/s (capped by sample rate)
write: 182 MiB/s
Non-coherent reads with no cache sync + write-combine writes:
- fileio:
read: 156 MiB/s
write: 140 MiB/s
- dmabuf:
read: 234 MiB/s (capped by sample rate)
write: 210 MiB/s
A few things we can deduce from this:
* Write-combine is not available on Zynq/ARM? If it was working, it
should give a better performance than the coherent mapping, but it
doesn't seem to do anything at all. At least it doesn't harm
performance.
* Non-coherent + cache invalidation is definitely a good deal slower
than using coherent mapping, at least on ARM32. However, when the cache
sync is disabled (e.g. if the DMA operations are coherent) the reads
are much faster.
* The new dma-buf based API is a great deal faster than the fileio API.
So in the future we could use coherent reads + write-combine writes,
unless we know the DMA operations are coherent, and in this case use
non-coherent reads + write-combine writes.
Regarding this patch, unfortunately I cannot prove that write-combine
is faster, so I'll just drop this patch for now.
Cheers,
-Paul
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-11-25 17:32 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-11-15 14:19 [PATCH 00/15] iio: buffer-dma: write() and new DMABUF based API Paul Cercueil
2021-11-15 14:19 ` [PATCH 01/15] iio: buffer-dma: Get rid of incoming/outgoing queues Paul Cercueil
2021-11-16 8:23 ` Alexandru Ardelean
2021-11-21 14:05 ` Jonathan Cameron
2021-11-21 16:23 ` Lars-Peter Clausen
2021-11-21 17:52 ` Paul Cercueil
2021-11-21 18:49 ` Lars-Peter Clausen
2021-11-21 20:08 ` Paul Cercueil
2021-11-22 15:08 ` Lars-Peter Clausen
2021-11-22 15:16 ` Paul Cercueil
2021-11-22 15:17 ` Lars-Peter Clausen
2021-11-22 15:27 ` Paul Cercueil
2021-11-15 14:19 ` [PATCH 02/15] iio: buffer-dma: Remove unused iio_buffer_block struct Paul Cercueil
2021-11-16 8:22 ` Alexandru Ardelean
2021-11-15 14:19 ` [PATCH 03/15] iio: buffer-dma: Use round_down() instead of rounddown() Paul Cercueil
2021-11-16 8:26 ` Alexandru Ardelean
2021-11-21 14:08 ` Jonathan Cameron
2021-11-22 10:00 ` Paul Cercueil
2021-11-27 15:15 ` Jonathan Cameron
2021-11-15 14:19 ` [PATCH 04/15] iio: buffer-dma: Enable buffer write support Paul Cercueil
2021-11-16 8:52 ` Alexandru Ardelean
2021-11-21 14:20 ` Jonathan Cameron
2021-11-21 17:19 ` Paul Cercueil
2021-11-27 15:17 ` Jonathan Cameron
2021-11-15 14:19 ` [PATCH 05/15] iio: buffer-dmaengine: Support specifying buffer direction Paul Cercueil
2021-11-16 8:53 ` Alexandru Ardelean
2021-11-15 14:19 ` [PATCH 06/15] iio: buffer-dmaengine: Enable write support Paul Cercueil
2021-11-16 8:55 ` Alexandru Ardelean
2021-11-15 14:19 ` [PATCH 07/15] iio: core: Add new DMABUF interface infrastructure Paul Cercueil
2021-11-21 14:31 ` Jonathan Cameron
2021-11-15 14:19 ` [PATCH 08/15] iio: buffer-dma: split iio_dma_buffer_fileio_free() function Paul Cercueil
2021-11-16 10:59 ` Alexandru Ardelean
2021-11-21 13:49 ` Jonathan Cameron
2021-11-15 14:19 ` [PATCH 09/15] iio: buffer-dma: Use DMABUFs instead of custom solution Paul Cercueil
2021-11-15 14:19 ` [PATCH 10/15] iio: buffer-dma: Implement new DMABUF based userspace API Paul Cercueil
2021-11-15 14:19 ` [PATCH 11/15] iio: buffer-dma: Boost performance using write-combine cache setting Paul Cercueil
2021-11-18 11:45 ` Paul Cercueil
2021-11-21 15:00 ` Jonathan Cameron
2021-11-21 17:43 ` Paul Cercueil
2021-11-25 17:29 ` Paul Cercueil [this message]
2021-11-27 16:05 ` Jonathan Cameron
2021-11-28 13:25 ` Lars-Peter Clausen
2021-11-27 15:20 ` Jonathan Cameron
2021-11-15 14:22 ` [PATCH 12/15] iio: buffer-dmaengine: Support new DMABUF based userspace API Paul Cercueil
2021-11-15 14:22 ` [PATCH 13/15] iio: core: Add support for cyclic buffers Paul Cercueil
2021-11-16 9:50 ` Alexandru Ardelean
2021-11-15 14:22 ` [PATCH 14/15] iio: buffer-dmaengine: " Paul Cercueil
2021-11-16 9:50 ` Alexandru Ardelean
2021-11-15 14:22 ` [PATCH 15/15] Documentation: iio: Document high-speed DMABUF based API Paul Cercueil
2021-11-21 15:10 ` Jonathan Cameron
2021-11-21 17:46 ` Paul Cercueil
2021-11-15 14:37 ` [PATCH 00/15] iio: buffer-dma: write() and new " Daniel Vetter
2021-11-15 14:57 ` Paul Cercueil
2021-11-16 16:02 ` Daniel Vetter
2021-11-16 16:31 ` Laurent Pinchart
2021-11-17 8:48 ` Christian König
2021-11-17 12:50 ` Paul Cercueil
2021-11-17 13:42 ` Hennerich, Michael
2021-11-21 13:57 ` Jonathan Cameron
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