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From: Nicolas Dufresne <nicolas.dufresne@collabora.com>
To: Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>
Cc: "Maxime Ripard" <mripard@redhat.com>,
	"Bryan O'Donoghue" <bryan.odonoghue@linaro.org>,
	"Dmitry Baryshkov" <dmitry.baryshkov@linaro.org>,
	"Hans de Goede" <hdegoede@redhat.com>,
	"Sumit Semwal" <sumit.semwal@linaro.org>,
	"Benjamin Gaignard" <benjamin.gaignard@collabora.com>,
	"Brian Starkey" <Brian.Starkey@arm.com>,
	"John Stultz" <jstultz@google.com>,
	"T.J. Mercier" <tjmercier@google.com>,
	"Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>,
	"Lennart Poettering" <mzxreary@0pointer.de>,
	"Robert Mader" <robert.mader@collabora.com>,
	"Sebastien Bacher" <sebastien.bacher@canonical.com>,
	"Linux Media Mailing List" <linux-media@vger.kernel.org>,
	"dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org"
	<dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	linaro-mm-sig@lists.linaro.org,
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	"Milan Zamazal" <mzamazal@redhat.com>,
	"Andrey Konovalov" <andrey.konovalov.ynk@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Safety of opening up /dev/dma_heap/* to physically present users (udev uaccess tag) ?
Date: Tue, 14 May 2024 16:52:40 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a3a5852587a3a463068b5d45e89e9624e50eb3fe.camel@collabora.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240514204500.GO32013@pendragon.ideasonboard.com>

Hi,

Le mardi 14 mai 2024 à 23:45 +0300, Laurent Pinchart a écrit :
> > And finally, none of this fixes the issue that the heap allocation are not being
> > accounted properly and allow of an easy memory DoS. So uaccess should be granted
> > with care, meaning that defaulting a "desktop" library to that, means it will
> > most of the time not work at all.
> 
> I think that issue should be fixed, regardless of whether or not we end
> up using dma heaps for libcamera. If we do use them, maybe there will be
> a higher incentive for somebody involved in this conversation to tackle
> that problem first :-) And maybe, as a result, the rest of the Linux
> community will consider with a more open mind usage of dma heaps on
> desktop systems.

The strict reality is that if libcamera offer no alternatives, some OS will
enable it and reduce their security. I totally agree this issue needs to be
fixed regardless of libcamera, or even dma heaps. DMABuf allocation should be
accounted and limited to quotas whether it comes from a GPU, Display, V4L2 or
other type of supported devices. I would also not recommend dropping your heap
support (or preventing it from being merged) in libcamera.

Nicolas

      reply	other threads:[~2024-05-14 20:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-05-06 11:49 Safety of opening up /dev/dma_heap/* to physically present users (udev uaccess tag) ? Hans de Goede
2024-05-06 12:05 ` Maxime Ripard
2024-05-06 12:11   ` Hans de Goede
2024-05-06 13:38   ` Daniel Vetter
2024-05-06 14:01     ` Hans de Goede
2024-05-07 11:15       ` Daniel Vetter
2024-05-08  5:46         ` Daniel Stone
2024-05-08  8:33           ` Daniel Vetter
2024-05-08  8:38             ` Daniel Stone
2024-05-08 15:49               ` Daniel Vetter
2024-05-09  9:23                 ` Daniel Stone
2024-05-16 10:18                   ` Daniel Vetter
2024-05-13 13:51                 ` Simon Ser
2024-05-16 10:13                   ` Daniel Vetter
2024-05-07 13:34       ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2024-05-07 18:59     ` Laurent Pinchart
2024-05-22 13:34     ` Maxime Ripard
2024-05-23  9:41       ` Daniel Vetter
2024-05-07 13:32 ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2024-05-07 14:34   ` Hans de Goede
2024-05-07 15:09     ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2024-05-07 15:15       ` Bryan O'Donoghue
2024-05-07 15:19         ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2024-05-07 18:40           ` Laurent Pinchart
2024-05-07 19:59             ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2024-05-07 20:15               ` Laurent Pinchart
2024-05-08  8:39               ` Daniel Vetter
2024-05-08 21:54                 ` Laurent Pinchart
2024-05-13  8:39               ` Maxime Ripard
2024-05-07 17:36         ` Daniel Vetter
2024-05-07 18:36           ` Laurent Pinchart
2024-05-07 20:07             ` Nicolas Dufresne
2024-05-08  8:36               ` Daniel Vetter
2024-05-08 21:51                 ` Laurent Pinchart
2024-05-08 21:52                   ` Laurent Pinchart
2024-05-13  8:29                 ` Maxime Ripard
2024-05-13  8:34                   ` Laurent Pinchart
2024-05-13 15:10                     ` Nicolas Dufresne
2024-05-14 20:42                       ` Laurent Pinchart
2024-05-15 17:43                         ` nicolas.dufresne
2024-05-16 11:27                           ` Laurent Pinchart
2024-05-16 17:11                             ` nicolas.dufresne
2024-05-21  8:43                               ` Maxime Ripard
2024-05-21 14:18                                 ` nicolas.dufresne
2024-05-16  7:00                         ` Simon Ser
2024-05-16 11:20                           ` Laurent Pinchart
2024-05-22 13:02                             ` Nicolas Dufresne
2024-05-13 13:42                   ` Nicolas Dufresne
2024-05-13 13:51                     ` Maxime Ripard
2024-05-13 15:06                       ` Nicolas Dufresne
2024-05-14 20:45                         ` Laurent Pinchart
2024-05-14 20:52                           ` Nicolas Dufresne [this message]

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