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From: Johan Hovold <johan@kernel.org>
To: Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski@linaro.org>
Cc: Bryan O'Donoghue <bryan.odonoghue@linaro.org>,
	Robert Foss <rfoss@kernel.org>, Todor Tomov <todor.too@gmail.com>,
	Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@kernel.org>,
	linux-media@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] media: qcom: camss: vfe: Stop spamming logs with version
Date: Tue, 20 May 2025 09:53:25 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aCw09Vci12txhYj-@hovoldconsulting.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ea9f570c-b135-4a98-91ea-ceeb2f48a0e5@linaro.org>

On Tue, May 20, 2025 at 08:06:22AM +0200, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
> On 30/04/2025 10:33, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
> > On 30/04/2025 10:30, Bryan O'Donoghue wrote:
> >> On 30/04/2025 09:19, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
> >>> If anyone wants to know it and cannot deduce from compatible, then add
> >>> debugfs interface.
> >>
> >> dev_dbg(); isn't too offensive really IMO but if it really bothers you 
> >> switching to debugfs would be fine.
> > 
> > Yes, please. Dmesg should be only contain issues or some useful
> > debugging data. Probe success is not useful. It duplicates sysfs and
> > tracing. Version of hardware - well, I am sure it duplicates the compatible.
> 
> To recall: kernel coding style is also clear here:
> "When drivers are working properly they are quiet,"

That's clear and well known (or should be).

> and kernel debugging guide as well:
> "In almost all cases the debug statements shouldn't be upstreamed, as a
> working driver is supposed to be silent."

But this is a very recent addition and questionable when read in
isolation since debug statements are not printed by default. The
preceding sentences do qualify this:

	Permanent debug statements have to be useful for a developer to
	troubleshoot driver misbehavior. Judging that is a bit more of
	an art than a science...

> So I really do not get why this driver deserved exception. Nevertheless
> I think we agreed that these logs can go away, thus I just sent a v2
> with a bit extended commit msg.

Spamming the logs as the driver currently does is clearly broken and
should be fixed. Keeping a hw version dev_dbg() is generally perfectly
fine, though.

Johan

  reply	other threads:[~2025-05-20  7:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-04-29 18:08 [PATCH 1/3] media: qcom: camss: vfe: Stop spamming logs with version Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-04-29 18:08 ` [PATCH 2/3] media: qcom: camss: csid: " Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-04-29 18:08 ` [PATCH 3/3] media: qcom: camss: csiphy: " Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-04-29 18:11 ` [PATCH 1/3] media: qcom: camss: vfe: " Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-04-29 19:40 ` Bryan O'Donoghue
2025-04-30  6:15   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-04-30  7:25 ` Johan Hovold
2025-04-30  8:19   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-04-30  8:30     ` Bryan O'Donoghue
2025-04-30  8:33       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-05-20  6:06         ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-05-20  7:53           ` Johan Hovold [this message]
2025-05-20  8:02             ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-05-20  8:23               ` Johan Hovold
2025-05-20  8:30                 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-05-20  8:39                   ` Johan Hovold
2025-05-20  8:44                   ` Bryan O'Donoghue
2025-05-20  8:51                     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-05-20  8:58                       ` Bryan O'Donoghue
2025-05-20  9:16                         ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-05-20  9:17                       ` Johan Hovold
2025-04-30 12:31     ` Johan Hovold
2025-04-30  8:24   ` Bryan O'Donoghue
2025-04-30 12:34     ` Johan Hovold

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