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From: Sultan Alsawaf <sultan@kerneltoast.com>
To: "Du, Bin" <bin.du@amd.com>
Cc: mchehab@kernel.org, hverkuil@xs4all.nl,
	laurent.pinchart+renesas@ideasonboard.com,
	bryan.odonoghue@linaro.org, sakari.ailus@linux.intel.com,
	prabhakar.mahadev-lad.rj@bp.renesas.com,
	linux-media@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	pratap.nirujogi@amd.com, benjamin.chan@amd.com, king.li@amd.com,
	gjorgji.rosikopulos@amd.com, Phil.Jawich@amd.com,
	Dominic.Antony@amd.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/8] Add AMD ISP4 driver
Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2025 22:49:29 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aJmEaXkXDtfkVQiR@sultan-box> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <17464bff-6b3e-4962-8b83-132cd7367d1d@amd.com>

On Fri, Aug 08, 2025 at 05:11:39PM +0800, Du, Bin wrote:
> On 8/4/2025 12:25 PM, Sultan Alsawaf wrote:
> > On Mon, Aug 04, 2025 at 11:32:11AM +0800, Du, Bin wrote:
> > > On 7/31/2025 6:04 PM, Du, Bin wrote:
> > > > Thanks Sultan for your test
> > > > 
> > > > On 7/31/2025 8:30 AM, Sultan Alsawaf wrote:
> > > > > On Wed, Jul 30, 2025 at 05:53:58PM +0800, Du, Bin wrote:
> > > > > > On 7/30/2025 1:38 PM, Sultan Alsawaf wrote:
> > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 29, 2025 at 06:13:50PM +0800, Du, Bin wrote:
> > > > > > > > On 7/29/2025 3:45 PM, Sultan Alsawaf wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 29, 2025 at 12:42:16AM -0700, Sultan Alsawaf wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 29, 2025 at 11:32:23AM +0800, Du, Bin wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > Thanks Sultan, please see my comments
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > On 7/27/2025 6:31 AM, Sultan Alsawaf wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jul 25, 2025 at 06:22:03PM +0800, Du, Bin wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have the Ryzen AI MAX+ 395 SKU of the HP ZBook Ultra G1a 14.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I cannot for the life of me get
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > the webcam working under Linux.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > The webcam works
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > under Windows so it's not a hardware issue.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > With this patchset and all of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > the patches you link here
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > applied to 6.15, I get
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > the following errors:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >         [   11.970038]
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > amd_isp_i2c_designware
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > amd_isp_i2c_designware: Unknown
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Synopsys component type:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 0xffffffff
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >         [   11.973162]
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > amd_isp_i2c_designware
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > amd_isp_i2c_designware: error
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > -19: i2c_dw_probe failed
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > With the old ispkernel code from
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > February [1] applied on 6.15,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > the webcam
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > indicator LED lights up but
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > there's no image. I see these
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > messages at boot:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >         [    9.449005]
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > amd_isp_capture
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > amd_isp_capture.1.auto: amdgpu:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > AMD ISP v4l2 device registered
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >         [    9.489005]
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > amd_isp_i2c_designware
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > amd_isp_i2c_designware.2.auto:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > The OV05 sensor device is added
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > to the ISP I2C bus
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >         [    9.529012]
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > amd_isp_i2c_designware
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > amd_isp_i2c_designware.2.auto:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > timeout while trying to abort
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > current transfer
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >         [    9.554046]
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > amd_isp_i2c_designware
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > amd_isp_i2c_designware.2.auto:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > timeout in disabling adapter
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >         [    9.554174]
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > amd_isp_i2c_designware
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > amd_isp_i2c_designware.2.auto:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > timeout while trying to abort
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > current transfer
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >         [    9.580022]
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > amd_isp_i2c_designware
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > amd_isp_i2c_designware.2.auto:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > timeout in disabling adapter
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > And then the kernel crashes due
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > to the same use-after-free
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > issues I pointed out
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > in my other email [2].
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any idea what's going on?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > [1]
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://github.com/amd/Linux_ISP_Kernel/commit/
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > c6d42584fbd0aa42cc91ecf16dc5c4f3dfea0bb4
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > [2] https://lore.kernel.org/r/aIEiJL83pOYO8lUJ@sultan-box
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Sultan,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > [1] is for kernel 6.8, believe it
> > > > > > > > > > > > > can't be applied to 6.15. We didn't
> > > > > > > > > > > > > verify
> > > > > > > > > > > > > on 6.15 but we are really glad to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > help, would you please provide some
> > > > > > > > > > > > > info,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Suppose you are using Ubuntu, right? What's the version?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. 6.15, do you mean
> > > > > > > > > > > > > https://github.com/torvalds/linux/tree/
> > > > > > > > > > > > > v6.15 ?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > After your confirmation, we'll see
> > > > > > > > > > > > > what we can do to enable your camera
> > > > > > > > > > > > > quickly and easily
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Bin
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you, Bin!
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > 1. I'm using Arch Linux with the ISP4-patched libcamera [1].
> > > > > > > > > > > > 2. Yes, here is my kernel source [2].
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > I have some more findings:
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > Currently, the first blocking issue is
> > > > > > > > > > > > that the I2C adapter fails to
> > > > > > > > > > > > initialize.
> > > > > > > > > > > > This is because the ISP tile isn't powered on.
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > I noticed that in the old version of
> > > > > > > > > > > > amd_isp_i2c_designware [3], there were
> > > > > > > > > > > > calls to isp_power_set(), which is
> > > > > > > > > > > > available in the old ISP4 sources [4].
> > > > > > > > > > > > Without isp_power_set(), the I2C adapter
> > > > > > > > > > > > always fails to initialize for me.
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > How is the ISP tile supposed to get
> > > > > > > > > > > > powered on in the current ISP4 code?
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > You are correct, yes, i believe the I2C
> > > > > > > > > > > adapter failure is caused by ISP not
> > > > > > > > > > > being powered up. Currently in latest code,
> > > > > > > > > > > isp_power_set is no longer
> > > > > > > > > > > available, instead, we implemented genPD for ISP in amdgpu
> > > > > > > > > > > https://lore.kernel.org/all/20250618221923.3944751-1-
> > > > > > > > > > > pratap.nirujogi@amd.com/
> > > > > > > > > > > Both amd_isp_i2c and amd_isp_capture are in
> > > > > > > > > > > the power domain and use the
> > > > > > > > > > > standard runtime PM API to do the power control
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Thanks for that link, I found it along with
> > > > > > > > > > another patch on the list to make
> > > > > > > > > > the fwnode work ("drm/amd/amdgpu: Initialize
> > > > > > > > > > swnode for ISP MFD device").
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > Also, I noticed that the driver init
> > > > > > > > > > > > ordering matters between all of the
> > > > > > > > > > > > drivers
> > > > > > > > > > > > needed for the ISP4 camera. In
> > > > > > > > > > > > particular, amd_isp_i2c_designware and
> > > > > > > > > > > > amd_isp4
> > > > > > > > > > > > must be initialized before amd_capture,
> > > > > > > > > > > > otherwise amd_capture will fail to find
> > > > > > > > > > > > the fwnode properties for the OV05C10
> > > > > > > > > > > > device attached to the I2C bus.
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > But there is no driver init ordering
> > > > > > > > > > > > enforced, which also caused some issues
> > > > > > > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > > > > > me until I figured it out. Maybe probe
> > > > > > > > > > > > deferral (-EPROBE_DEFER) should be used
> > > > > > > > > > > > to ensure each driver waits for its dependencies to init first?
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > amd_isp_capture only has dependency on
> > > > > > > > > > > amd_isp4 which is the ACPI platform
> > > > > > > > > > > driver, it is init before amd_isp_catpure.
> > > > > > > > > > > Do you see in your side the amd_capture
> > > > > > > > > > > probe failure caused by failing to
> > > > > > > > > > > read fwnode properties? If that's the case
> > > > > > > > > > > please help to check if amd_isp4
> > > > > > > > > > > is loaded successfully
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > I got much further now: there aren't any driver
> > > > > > > > > > initialization errors, but when
> > > > > > > > > > I open the camera, there's no image. The camera
> > > > > > > > > > LED turns on so it's active.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > And then shortly afterwards, amdgpu dies and the
> > > > > > > > > > entire system freezes.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > I've attached my full dmesg, please let me know
> > > > > > > > > > what you think. Thanks!
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > I almost forgot, here is my current kernel tree:
> > > > > > > > > https://github.com/kerneltoast/kernel_x86_laptop/tree/v6.16-
> > > > > > > > > sultan-isp4
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Sultan
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Thanks Sultan, yes, seems much close to the final
> > > > > > > > success. Will have some
> > > > > > > > internal discussion.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > I got the webcam working. The same bug happened when I tried
> > > > > > > Ubuntu's linux-oem
> > > > > > > kernel, which made me think that the issue was firmware.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > And indeed, the culprit was a firmware update from February. I bisected
> > > > > > > linux-firmware and found the commit which broke the webcam for me:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >      commit 1cc8c1bfa11251ce8bfcc97d1f15e312f7fe4df0 (HEAD)
> > > > > > >      Author: Pratap Nirujogi <pratap.nirujogi@amd.com>
> > > > > > >      Date:   Wed Feb 19 12:16:51 2025 -0500
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >          amdgpu: Update ISP FW for isp v4.1.1
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >          From internal git commit:
> > > > > > >          5058202443e08a673b6772ea6339efb50853be28
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >          Signed-off-by: Pratap Nirujogi <pratap.nirujogi@amd.com>
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >       amdgpu/isp_4_1_1.bin | Bin 4543184 -> 6083536 bytes
> > > > > > >       1 file changed, 0 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-)
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Downgrading firmware to before that commit fixes the webcam.
> > > > > > > Any idea why?
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > Sultan
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > So, can i say the working firmware binary is this one?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Commit 8f070131
> > > > > > amdgpu: Update ISP FW for isp v4.1.1
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >   From internal git commit:
> > > > > > 39b007366cc76ef8c65e3bc6220ccb213f4861fb
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Signed-off-by: Pratap Nirujogi <pratap.nirujogi@amd.com>
> > > > > 
> > > > > Correct.
> > > > > 
> > > > > > There are too many changes between them, so i can't tell exactly which
> > > > > > change caused this. So, from my side
> > > > > > 1. Will try these two firmware to see if we have the same issue.
> > > > > > 2. It has been quite a long time since last release, will see if need to
> > > > > > release a latest one.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Thanks. It was a quick bisect for me, so I'm happy to help test if a
> > > > > bisect
> > > > > between those two internal git commits is needed.
> > > > > 
> > > > Really appreciate your test.
> > > > > In case it makes a difference, I have the laptop with the 2.8K OLED
> > > > > display. I'm
> > > > > aware there is one other display variant on other SKUs, which is a
> > > > > WUXGA IPS.
> > > > > 
> > > > Good to know, I believe it won't make any difference for ISP
> > > > 
> > > > > Also, with that old firmware, my camera only works with the old isp4
> > > > > driver from
> > > > > that Linux_ISP_Kernel repo (which is the same isp4 driver used in
> > > > > Ubuntu's
> > > > > linux-oem kernel). Does the new isp4 driver you've submitted here
> > > > > require newer
> > > > > firmware than the old driver located in Linux_ISP_Kernel?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Sultan
> > > > 
> > > > We had a try, yes, both of the old FW can't work on the new ISP4 driver,
> > > > as you know, for the last months, we did lots of driver modifications
> > > > for upstream and cause it incompatible with old FW.
> > > > Now, under internal discussion to upstream a new FW to support the new
> > > > ISP driver
> > > > 
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Bin
> > > > 
> > > > Hi Sultan,
> > > 
> > > This is the conclusion of your test,
> > > Driver: https://github.com/amd/Linux_ISP_Kernel/commit/c6d42584fbd0aa42cc91ecf16dc5c4f3dfea0bb4
> > > [1] It works on FW      8f070131(ext):39b00736(int)
> > > [2] It can't work on FW 1cc8c1bf(ext):50582024(int)
> > 
> > Correct.
> > 
> > > Would you please help to check if CONFIG_VIDEO_OV05C is defined not in the
> > > .config file when building the kernel? Our assumption is to make [1] work,
> > > CONFIG_VIDEO_OV05C shouldn't be defined. to make [2] work,
> > > CONFIG_VIDEO_OV05C should be defined.
> > 
> > Yes, it is enabled and I have only tested with it enabled:
> > 
> >      $ rg CONFIG_VIDEO_OV05C linux-oem-6.14/.config
> >      CONFIG_VIDEO_OV05C=m
> > 
> > That's the Ubuntu linux-oem-6.14 kernel. You can get the full source and .config
> > I tested by running the following commands:
> > 
> >      git clone https://git.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-oem-6.14 -b applied/6.14.0-1006.6
> >      cd linux-oem-6.14
> >      python debian/scripts/misc/annotations -e --arch amd64 > .config
> >      make olddefconfig
> > 
> > Let me know if that works.
> > 
> > Sultan
> 
> Thanks Sultan for the details, yes, we can reproduce the same issue on old
> isp driver 4.0 release on FW 1cc8c1bf(ext):50582024(int), after debug, the
> cause is
>   - ov05c sensor device is added by amd i2c driver
>   - When ov05c sensor driver probes, it will try to get gpio description but
> it will fail because the amd-pinctl driver which creates the gpio resource
> hasn't been loaded yet.
>   - the ov05c sensor driver probe failure will finally make sensor not able
> to work when start streaming
> 
> Add following patch is supposed to fix this issue to make it work on FW
> 1cc8c1bf(ext):50582024(int) when CONFIG_VIDEO_OV05C is defined.
> 
> @@ -1121,6 +1129,7 @@ static struct i2c_driver ov05_i2c_driver = {
> 
> module_i2c_driver(ov05_i2c_driver);
> 
> +MODULE_SOFTDEP("pre: pinctrl-amdisp");
> MODULE_ALIAS("ov05");
> MODULE_DESCRIPTION("OmniVision OV05 sensor driver");
> MODULE_LICENSE("GPL and additional rights");
> 
> Please help to see if it works if you get time.

There is no difference I'm afraid. I applied the patch and tested with FW
1cc8c1bf(ext):50582024(int) and the webcam is still broken on that FW:

  [   19.523006] amd_isp_capture amd_isp_capture.1.auto: amdgpu: Preview(fw_run:0)|start_streaming
  [   19.537000] amd_isp_capture amd_isp_capture.1.auto: ISP FW boot suc!
  [   19.537009] amd_isp_capture amd_isp_capture.1.auto: amdgpu: starting Phy
  [   19.537050] PHY register access test success!
  [   19.537901] Termination calibration observability: 0x0
  [   19.539926] Wait for phyReady: 0x0
  [   19.541932] Wait for phyReady: 0x1
  [   20.901654] amd_isp_capture amd_isp_capture.1.auto: -><- fail respid Unknown respid(0x30002)
  [   22.070676] amd_isp_capture amd_isp_capture.1.auto: -><- fail respid Unknown respid(0x30002)
  ...
  [   28.769372] amd_isp_capture amd_isp_capture.1.auto: amdgpu: Preview(fw_run:1)|stop_streaming
  [   28.769388] amd_isp_capture amd_isp_capture.1.auto: amdgpu: stopping Phy
  [   28.769868] amd_isp_capture amd_isp_capture.1.auto: isp_rm_cmd_from_cmdq_by_stream: fail empty cmd q, stream[1]
  [   28.771799] amd_isp_capture amd_isp_capture.1.auto: isp_rm_cmd_from_cmdq_by_stream: fail empty cmd q, stream[0]

Sultan

  reply	other threads:[~2025-08-11  5:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 98+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-06-18  9:19 [PATCH v2 0/8] Add AMD ISP4 driver Bin Du
2025-06-18  9:19 ` [PATCH v2 1/8] media: platform: amd: Introduce amd isp4 capture driver Bin Du
2025-06-18 15:58   ` Mario Limonciello
2025-06-19  7:46     ` Du, Bin
2025-06-19 13:00       ` Mario Limonciello
2025-06-20  3:08         ` Du, Bin
2025-07-28  5:54   ` Sakari Ailus
2025-07-28  9:00     ` Du, Bin
2025-06-18  9:19 ` [PATCH v2 2/8] media: platform: amd: low level support for isp4 firmware Bin Du
2025-06-18 16:00   ` Mario Limonciello
2025-06-19  7:53     ` Du, Bin
2025-07-28  5:57   ` Sakari Ailus
2025-07-28  9:24     ` Du, Bin
2025-06-18  9:19 ` [PATCH v2 3/8] media: platform: amd: Add helpers to configure isp4 mipi phy Bin Du
2025-07-28  6:33   ` Sakari Ailus
2025-08-05  9:53     ` Du, Bin
2025-08-05 10:53       ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-08-06  9:56         ` Du, Bin
2025-08-05 10:39     ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-08-06  9:45       ` Du, Bin
2025-07-28  7:28   ` Sakari Ailus
2025-07-31  9:31     ` Du, Bin
2025-06-18  9:19 ` [PATCH v2 4/8] media: platform: amd: Add isp4 fw and hw interface Bin Du
2025-06-18 16:17   ` Mario Limonciello
2025-06-19  9:58     ` Du, Bin
2025-06-19 15:11       ` Mario Limonciello
2025-06-20  3:32         ` Du, Bin
2025-07-28  7:23   ` Sakari Ailus
2025-07-29  9:12     ` Du, Bin
2025-08-11 11:46       ` Sakari Ailus
2025-08-11 12:31         ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-08-12  3:36           ` Du, Bin
2025-08-12  7:34             ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-08-12  8:08               ` Du, Bin
2025-08-12  8:20               ` Sakari Ailus
2025-08-12 10:04                 ` Du, Bin
2025-08-12  2:44         ` Du, Bin
2025-06-18  9:19 ` [PATCH v2 5/8] media: platform: amd: isp4 subdev and firmware loading handling added Bin Du
2025-06-18 16:35   ` Mario Limonciello
2025-06-20  9:31     ` Du, Bin
2025-07-06 20:55       ` Mario Limonciello
2025-07-07  6:22         ` Du, Bin
2025-07-25  1:35   ` Sultan Alsawaf
2025-07-25  9:03     ` Du, Bin
2025-06-18  9:19 ` [PATCH v2 6/8] media: platform: amd: isp4 video node and buffers " Bin Du
2025-07-23 17:55   ` Sultan Alsawaf
2025-07-24  5:14     ` Sultan Alsawaf
2025-07-25  9:05       ` Du, Bin
2025-07-25  9:22     ` Du, Bin
2025-07-26 21:41       ` Sultan Alsawaf
2025-07-26 21:50         ` Sultan Alsawaf
2025-07-29  6:12           ` Du, Bin
2025-07-29  6:08         ` Du, Bin
2025-07-28  7:04   ` Sultan Alsawaf
2025-07-29  7:43     ` Du, Bin
2025-07-31  0:34       ` Sultan Alsawaf
2025-07-31  9:45         ` Du, Bin
2025-08-11  6:02         ` Sultan Alsawaf
2025-08-11  9:05           ` Du, Bin
2025-08-12  5:51             ` Sultan Alsawaf
2025-08-12  6:33               ` Du, Bin
2025-08-13  9:42                 ` Du, Bin
2025-08-14  6:37                   ` Sultan Alsawaf
2025-06-18  9:19 ` [PATCH v2 7/8] media: platform: amd: isp4 debug fs logging and more descriptive errors Bin Du
2025-06-18  9:19 ` [PATCH v2 8/8] Documentation: add documentation of AMD isp 4 driver Bin Du
2025-08-05 11:37   ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-08-12  1:36     ` Du, Bin
2025-08-12 13:42       ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-08-22  2:28         ` Du, Bin
2025-08-20 12:42       ` Sakari Ailus
2025-08-22  2:20         ` Du, Bin
2025-09-22  6:24           ` Sakari Ailus
2025-09-22  9:19             ` Du, Bin
2025-07-23 18:12 ` [PATCH v2 0/8] Add AMD ISP4 driver Sultan Alsawaf
2025-07-25 10:22   ` Du, Bin
2025-07-26 22:31     ` Sultan Alsawaf
2025-07-29  3:32       ` Du, Bin
2025-07-29  7:42         ` Sultan Alsawaf
2025-07-29  7:45           ` Sultan Alsawaf
2025-07-29 10:13             ` Du, Bin
2025-07-30  5:38               ` Sultan Alsawaf
2025-07-30  9:53                 ` Du, Bin
2025-07-31  0:30                   ` Sultan Alsawaf
2025-07-31 10:04                     ` Du, Bin
2025-08-04  3:32                       ` Du, Bin
2025-08-04  4:25                         ` Sultan Alsawaf
2025-08-08  9:11                           ` Du, Bin
2025-08-11  5:49                             ` Sultan Alsawaf [this message]
2025-08-11  8:35                               ` Du, Bin
2025-08-11 21:48                                 ` Sultan Alsawaf
2025-08-11 22:17                                   ` Sultan Alsawaf
2025-08-12  2:02                                     ` Du, Bin
2025-08-14  6:53 ` Sultan Alsawaf
2025-08-22  2:23   ` Du, Bin
2025-08-22  3:56     ` Sultan Alsawaf
2025-08-27 10:30       ` Du, Bin
2025-08-28  5:50         ` Sultan Alsawaf
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