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From: Johan Hovold <johan@kernel.org>
To: Bartosz Golaszewski <brgl@kernel.org>
Cc: "Wolfram Sang" <wsa+renesas@sang-engineering.com>,
	"Bartosz Golaszewski" <bartosz.golaszewski@oss.qualcomm.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 00/13] i2c: add and start using i2c_adapter-specific printk helpers
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2026 17:40:29 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aaHI_VavZugXjVoL@hovoldconsulting.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMRc=MfcvD1nJy=zpoCkSkJq6WjyXQxFUZ4QE6vyCS+XFCn5AA@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Feb 27, 2026 at 04:42:09PM +0100, Bartosz Golaszewski wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 27, 2026 at 11:06 AM Johan Hovold <johan@kernel.org> wrote:

> > It seems all that is needed is to decouple the struct i2c_adapter from
> > the driver data and have core manage the lifetime of the former using
> > the reference count of the embedded struct device.

> This is a weird pattern you sometimes see where a driver allocates
> something and passes the ownership to the subsystem.

It's not weird at all, this is the standard way to handle this. We have
these things called reference counts for a reason.

> This often
> causes confusion among driver authors, who logically assume that if
> you allocate something, you are responsible for freeing it.Since this
> is C and not Rust (where such things are tracked by the compiler), I
> strongly believe we should strive to keep ownership consistent: the
> driver should free resources it allocated within the bounds of the
> lifetime of the device it controls. The subsystem should manage the
> data it allocated - in this case the i2c adapter struct device.

Drivers are responsible for dropping *their* reference, it doesn't mean
that the resource is necessarily freed immediately as someone else may
be holding a reference. Anyone surprised by this should not be doing
kernel development.

> I know there are a lot of places where this is done in the kernel but
> let's not introduce new ones. This is a bad pattern.

No, it's not. It's literally the standard way of doing this.

> But even if you decided this is the way to go, I fail to see how it
> would be easier than what I'm trying to do. You would have to modify
> *all* I2C bus drivers as opposed to only modifying those that access
> the underlying struct device. Or am I missing something?

Yes, you have to update the allocation and replace container_of() with
dev_get_drvdata() but it's a straight-forward transformation that brings
the i2c subsystem more in line with the driver model (unlike whatever it
is you're trying to do).

Johan

  reply	other threads:[~2026-02-27 16:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-02-23  8:59 [PATCH v2 00/13] i2c: add and start using i2c_adapter-specific printk helpers Bartosz Golaszewski
2026-02-23  8:59 ` [PATCH v2 01/13] media: saa7134: rename i2c_dbg() to saa7134_i2c_dbg() Bartosz Golaszewski
2026-03-16  8:29   ` Hans Verkuil
2026-03-16  8:38     ` Wolfram Sang
2026-03-16  8:42       ` Hans Verkuil
2026-02-23  8:59 ` [PATCH v2 02/13] i2c: add i2c_adapter-specific printk helpers Bartosz Golaszewski
2026-02-23  8:59 ` [PATCH v2 03/13] i2c: sun6i-p2wi: use " Bartosz Golaszewski
2026-02-23  8:59 ` [PATCH v2 04/13] i2c: mlxbf: " Bartosz Golaszewski
2026-02-23  8:59 ` [PATCH v2 05/13] i2c: isch: " Bartosz Golaszewski
2026-02-23  8:59 ` [PATCH v2 06/13] i2c: ali1535: " Bartosz Golaszewski
2026-02-23  8:59 ` [PATCH v2 07/13] i2c: scmi: " Bartosz Golaszewski
2026-02-23  8:59 ` [PATCH v2 08/13] i2c: ali15x3: " Bartosz Golaszewski
2026-02-23  8:59 ` [PATCH v2 09/13] i2c: powermac: " Bartosz Golaszewski
2026-02-23  8:59 ` [PATCH v2 10/13] i2c: owl: " Bartosz Golaszewski
2026-02-23  8:59 ` [PATCH v2 11/13] i2c: nforce2: " Bartosz Golaszewski
2026-02-23  8:59 ` [PATCH v2 12/13] i2c: amd756: " Bartosz Golaszewski
2026-02-23  8:59 ` [PATCH v2 13/13] i2c: piix4: " Bartosz Golaszewski
2026-02-26 20:21 ` [PATCH v2 00/13] i2c: add and start using " Wolfram Sang
2026-02-27  8:38   ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2026-02-27  8:54     ` Wolfram Sang
2026-02-27  8:58 ` Johan Hovold
2026-02-27  9:08   ` Wolfram Sang
2026-02-27 10:05     ` Johan Hovold
2026-02-27 15:42       ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2026-02-27 16:40         ` Johan Hovold [this message]
2026-03-02 18:03           ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2026-03-03 15:57             ` Johan Hovold
2026-03-04  9:55               ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2026-03-04 11:07                 ` Wolfram Sang
2026-03-06 15:50                   ` Johan Hovold
2026-03-06 17:20                     ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2026-03-09 11:51                     ` Wolfram Sang
2026-03-06 15:39                 ` Johan Hovold
2026-03-06 17:34                   ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2026-03-09 10:31                     ` Johan Hovold
2026-03-10  9:28                       ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2026-03-17 10:28                         ` Johan Hovold

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