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From: Sakari Ailus <sakari.ailus@linux.intel.com>
To: "luo.liu.linux" <luo.liu.linux@163.com>
Cc: mchehab@kernel.org, linux-media@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: [PATCH] media:v4l2-async:debugfs for registered subdevices
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2026 10:21:31 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <abkPC3sHVUdGuww1@kekkonen.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <186862ed.3836.19cf9df139c.Coremail.luo.liu.linux@163.com>

Hi Luo,

On Tue, Mar 17, 2026 at 11:37:52AM +0800, luo.liu.linux wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Sakari,
> 
> 	You are absolutely right. For an experienced kernel developer like
>  yourself, tools like KASAN and CONFIG_DEBUG_LIST are second nature and
>  incredibly effective for pinpointing such issues. I truly admire your
>  expertise in leveraging these advanced debugging mechanisms.
> 
> 	However, I think it is important to consider the reality for many
> junior driver developers (myself included). We often lack the deep
> intuition and extensive experience required to wield these powerful tools
> effectively in every scenario. More often than not, we still rely on
> primitive methods: struggling to reproduce intermittent crashes,
> scattering printk logs everywhere, and manually tracing execution paths.
> This process is extremely time-consuming and often yields no clear
> conclusions for "silent" resource leaks.
> 
> 	While I am actively working to improve my skills and learn to use
> these advanced tools more proficiently. I remain convinced that providing
> such a simple, intuitive interface offers a necessary supplement by
> serving as a low-barrier entry point for developers.
> 
> 	I hope this perspective clarifies why I believe this small change
> can bring a bit of convenience to a broader range of driver developers.

Just enable KASAN and list debugging in the future. New interfaces like
this won't improve things at large.

-- 
Kind regards,

Sakari Ailus

  reply	other threads:[~2026-03-17  8:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-03-13  7:58 [PATCH] media:v4l2-async:debugfs for registered subdevices luo.liu
2026-03-13 10:28 ` Sakari Ailus
2026-03-13 11:21   ` luo.liu.linux
2026-03-13 11:42     ` Sakari Ailus
2026-03-13 13:50       ` luo.liu.linux
2026-03-16 16:48         ` Sakari Ailus
2026-03-17  3:37           ` luo.liu.linux
2026-03-17  8:21             ` Sakari Ailus [this message]
2026-03-17 11:14               ` Re:Re: " luo.liu.linux
2026-03-19 20:30                 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-03-20  6:52                   ` luo.liu.linux

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