From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from outgoing.mit.edu (outgoing-auth-1.mit.edu [18.9.28.11]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EAC5A3793AD for ; Thu, 16 Jul 2026 20:54:35 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=18.9.28.11 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1784235277; cv=none; b=AiVg9NfF38FS5tepuWjkGNQOvbWS+HIGqjx29XYmA+Vf+3IOFNrq+zktGfnqDFauKRXboJOsrzNKh3vWZjO54j7Z8j9ul1qSK96AIfyJYIUBOl4Q4NbfeeFnsHUsV+uExvjRLhMbgfRhlIcHGVu1aa88Gzeo3ztqHZ9Fvc7/0S4= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1784235277; c=relaxed/simple; bh=pJ/3WBRsfAwjcbO4iM/Aly8h12otNDT4sL+votjuol4=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:References:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To; b=gJYNrbgRNMS5AQfVcUiJoggUh2Zohk2+DPMB339ykMhdMfAc3Zi0vUt8AACm7qfro7+G5QJKdcTLNN2jKnaCLN9mh/GgaSGtAKVNif4xnwYE49H1ZuH/tnsD4/JbPvvi8GOWE2ZMyw5AtCmkVXUnsVWUoL/gaWJr3M5I1rmgi+k= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=mit.edu; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=mit.edu; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=mit.edu header.i=@mit.edu header.b=f7xoMoWS; arc=none smtp.client-ip=18.9.28.11 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=mit.edu Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=mit.edu Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=mit.edu header.i=@mit.edu header.b="f7xoMoWS" Received: from macsyma.thunk.org ([151.240.45.27]) (authenticated bits=0) (User authenticated as tytso@ATHENA.MIT.EDU) by outgoing.mit.edu (8.14.7/8.12.4) with ESMTP id 66GKsIl7026627 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Thu, 16 Jul 2026 16:54:19 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mit.edu; s=outgoing; t=1784235260; bh=5sd2/fI6dhWdujKIVFzi12j261maCRe6c1gBh/vf4DI=; h=Date:From:Subject:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=f7xoMoWSd7vuo5cqM+A1Wk9rUeC1Rqxc6L37piob3hDCO7L076UbQ6wwj8/rJA99e MHxv2Un663593juy3xJm2oZJCbvClLtr2m4eumnWxwvMm1HdJDlq0scVpxBLcz/qYE abPS+vXzXgjEhQuj3nKlRN6Jdb+AK22SmUWbIoJoJQGGgCaKGrLEBr9Q9NjWrpf8ZP YgqXjE/jtUgJnHTrUoQWIb8Pa2VHHivBqqq3gF4sSpwjV80vxpyytatPuXCAfFr3bs 0kl9gOLj7/GWYqtp8smJAlcZIazAm/un0cRPIRY0XiHrK9HNrbSxggZ+lLLYxat4Tz wLBhWQ96cz9kw== Received: by macsyma.thunk.org (Postfix, from userid 15806) id 4A78AA55278; Thu, 16 Jul 2026 16:54:18 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2026 16:54:18 -0400 From: "Theodore Tso" To: August Zeller Cc: Laurent Pinchart , users@kernel.org, Linux Media Mailing List Subject: Re: Linking Patchwork with Sashiko? Message-ID: References: <20260715005909.GF1656185@killaraus.ideasonboard.com> <20260715161111.GC1778116@killaraus.ideasonboard.com> <20260715174138.GI1778116@killaraus.ideasonboard.com> <20260715185141.GJ1778116@killaraus.ideasonboard.com> <20260715201301.GB1824265@killaraus.ideasonboard.com> Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: linux-media@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: On Thu, Jul 16, 2026 at 05:10:11PM -0500, August Zeller wrote: > 2. On the other hand, it is also true that LLMs and derived tools are a > comprehensive manifestation of the problems of the industry and there > are valid ethical concerns regarding access discrimination, copyright, > workload externalization, job loss, etc. Also, there are multiple ways that LLMs can be used, and questions about access discrimination, copyright, etc. are *different* if what we are talking about vibe coding versus code review. The original question in this thread was *only* about Sashiko, which is a code review tool. Making general arguments about all LLM use cases is not helpful, and the policies that we might have for reviewing or teseting code might be **very** different compared to vibe coding. For example, copyright concerns simply don't apply. Can we please avoid conflating all AI use cases? This leads to more heat rather than light. - Ted