From: Matt Evans <mattev@meta.com>
To: Leon Romanovsky <leon@kernel.org>,
Alex Williamson <alex@shazbot.org>,
Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
Cc: "Alex Mastro" <amastro@fb.com>,
"Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>,
"Mahmoud Adam" <mngyadam@amazon.de>,
"David Matlack" <dmatlack@google.com>,
"Björn Töpel" <bjorn@kernel.org>,
"Sumit Semwal" <sumit.semwal@linaro.org>,
"Kevin Tian" <kevin.tian@intel.com>,
"Ankit Agrawal" <ankita@nvidia.com>,
"Pranjal Shrivastava" <praan@google.com>,
"Alistair Popple" <apopple@nvidia.com>,
"Vivek Kasireddy" <vivek.kasireddy@intel.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/9] vfio/pci: Convert BAR mmap() to use a DMABUF
Date: Thu, 14 May 2026 18:52:50 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <c2601b9c-9265-43da-9321-66db57446807@meta.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260506053511.GG11063@unreal>
Hi Leon, Alex, Jason,
On 06/05/2026 06:35, Leon Romanovsky wrote:
>
> On Tue, May 05, 2026 at 08:50:58AM -0600, Alex Williamson wrote:
>> On Tue, 5 May 2026 13:49:11 +0300
>> Leon Romanovsky <leon@kernel.org> wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, May 04, 2026 at 04:40:41AM -0300, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
>>>> On Fri, May 01, 2026 at 04:19:15PM -0600, Alex Williamson wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Exporting dma-bufs from vfio-pci is a feature, but mmap of MMIO BARs is
>>>>> a legacy requirement. That legacy requirement now depends on
>>>>> PCI_P2PDMA, which depends on 64BIT and ZONE_DEVICE.
>>>>
>>>> That should be split up now, Leon missed it when he added the new
>>>> APIs that didn't require ZONE_DEVICE..
>>>
>>> Sorry, what did I miss here?
>>> VFIO_DMABUF is an optional feature and is enabled only when P2P support is
>>> available. It does not affect legacy systems where P2P cannot be enabled.
>>
>> If we look at the long term view of moving exclusively to cdev/iommufd,
>> where VFIO_DMABUF becomes the mechanism for implementing P2P DMA
>> mappings, VFIO_DMABUF may be optional, but it's highly desirable for
>> legacy compatibility. There's an argument though that providing P2P
>> compatibility on platforms that support PCI_P2PDMA is probably
>> sufficient.
>>
>> However, in providing mmap of dmabufs as a feature, this series is
>> wiring all mmaps through dmabufs and therefore that dependency becomes
>> fundamental to the use of vfio-pci. Thus the discussion whether the
>> noted config requirements could be lifted. Thanks,
>
> Right, there was no need to remove ZONE_DEVICE when I added my code, and I
> left the task of cleaning it out of is_pci_p2pdma_page() for another day.
> Without ZONE_DEVICE, all pages are treated as non‑P2P.
Just checking I'm following the deps correctly...
If we remove the PCI_P2PDMA dependency on ZONE_DEVICE then (without)
it's present with P2P hard-disabled (as Leon says). Already
`is_pci_p2pdma_page() == false` because folio_is_zone_device() is always
false in that config.
The only dependency this series adds is for pcim_p2pdma_provider() (and
support). We can select PCI_P2PDMA for provider purposes (VFIO!) but if
!ZONE_DEVICE there's no P2P.
Nothing in PCI_P2PDMA depends on 64BIT and that dependency can be
removed [1]. (ZONE_DEVICE depends on 64BIT.)
That seems a path to VFIO operating unchanged on 32-bit platforms and
others without ZONE_DEVICE.
(PCI_P2PDMA currently also depends on NEED_SG_DMA_FLAGS, which seems to
be unnecessary if !ZONE_DEVICE is preventing P2P pages (no
sg_dma_mark_bus_address() would happen for example), is that right?)
Then VFIO_PCI depends on a subset of PCI_P2PDMA configuation:
"Diet" PCI_P2PDMA_CORE available even when !ZONE_DEVICE:
- Compatible with 32-bit platforms; doesn't need to depend on 64BIT
- Returns a provider, which allows VFIO mmap(), DMABUF mmap().
- Doesn't allow P2P DMA (eg. via DMABUFs).
- Doesn't need to select NEED_SG_DMA_FLAGS.
"Classic" PCI_P2PDMA depending on ZONE_DEVICE:
- Behaves as PCI_P2PDMA does today
- If ZONE_DEVICE then PCI_P2PDMA enabled, which enables VFIO_PCI_DMABUF
Meaning:
32-bit configs (or 64-bit without ZONE_DEVICE):
- No P2P anyway
- VFIO mmap() works
- VFIO_PCI_DMABUF is disabled (no point enabling DMABUF export since it
can't be used for its original P2P purpose)
64-bit configs that support ZONE_DEVICE:
- As today, DMABUF P2P, mmap() of BARs via VFIO or DMABUF
Just added PCI_P2PDMA_CORE and (functionally) ~no code changes are
needed since disabling P2P just falls out of !ZONE_DEVICE. But most of
p2pdma.c does nothing in that config (except for pcim_p2pdma_provider()
and its support) so benefits from some #ifdef to reduce it. WDYT about
a pcip2pdma_core.c containing just the provider management?
Thanks,
Matt
[1]: The drivers/pci/Kconfig's PCI_P2PDMA states:
# The need for the scatterlist DMA bus address flag means PCI P2PDMA
# requires 64bit
I think this isn't quite right as AFAICT the flags are usable on 32b
too, and actually it's ZONE_DEVICE that requires 64bit.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-05-14 17:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-04-16 13:17 [PATCH 0/9] vfio/pci: Add mmap() for DMABUFs Matt Evans
2026-04-16 13:17 ` [PATCH 1/9] vfio/pci: Fix vfio_pci_dma_buf_cleanup() double-put Matt Evans
2026-04-24 18:05 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-05-01 19:12 ` Alex Williamson
2026-05-06 13:53 ` Matt Evans
2026-05-06 15:29 ` Leon Romanovsky
2026-05-06 15:55 ` Matt Evans
2026-05-06 16:14 ` Leon Romanovsky
2026-05-06 16:42 ` Matt Evans
2026-04-16 13:17 ` [PATCH 2/9] vfio/pci: Add a helper to look up PFNs for DMABUFs Matt Evans
2026-04-24 18:15 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-05-07 15:48 ` Matt Evans
2026-04-16 13:17 ` [PATCH 3/9] vfio/pci: Add a helper to create a DMABUF for a BAR-map VMA Matt Evans
2026-04-24 18:24 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-04-30 16:47 ` Matt Evans
2026-04-30 17:11 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-05-05 18:13 ` Matt Evans
2026-05-06 19:03 ` Matt Evans
2026-04-16 13:17 ` [PATCH 4/9] vfio/pci: Convert BAR mmap() to use a DMABUF Matt Evans
2026-05-01 22:19 ` Alex Williamson
2026-05-04 7:40 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-05-05 10:49 ` Leon Romanovsky
2026-05-05 14:50 ` Alex Williamson
2026-05-05 14:59 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-05-06 5:35 ` Leon Romanovsky
2026-05-14 17:52 ` Matt Evans [this message]
2026-04-16 13:17 ` [PATCH 5/9] vfio/pci: Provide a user-facing name for BAR mappings Matt Evans
2026-04-24 18:26 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-05-01 22:44 ` Alex Williamson
2026-05-07 16:56 ` Matt Evans
2026-05-07 17:17 ` Matt Evans
2026-04-16 13:17 ` [PATCH 6/9] vfio/pci: Clean up BAR zap and revocation Matt Evans
2026-05-01 23:19 ` Alex Williamson
2026-05-05 10:58 ` Leon Romanovsky
2026-04-16 13:17 ` [PATCH 7/9] vfio/pci: Support mmap() of a VFIO DMABUF Matt Evans
2026-04-24 18:30 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-05-07 16:09 ` Matt Evans
2026-04-16 13:17 ` [PATCH 8/9] vfio/pci: Permanently revoke a DMABUF on request Matt Evans
2026-04-16 13:17 ` [PATCH 9/9] vfio/pci: Add mmap() attributes to DMABUF feature Matt Evans
2026-04-24 18:31 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-04-26 10:52 ` Leon Romanovsky
2026-04-27 14:36 ` Alex Williamson
2026-05-11 15:30 ` Matt Evans
2026-05-11 17:51 ` Leon Romanovsky
2026-05-11 20:09 ` Alex Williamson
2026-05-12 17:51 ` Matt Evans
2026-05-13 18:27 ` Alex Williamson
2026-05-14 13:55 ` Matt Evans
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