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From: "Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>
To: "Daniel Vetter" <daniel@ffwll.ch>,
	"Thomas Hellström (Intel)" <thomas_os@shipmail.org>
Cc: "Christian König" <ckoenig.leichtzumerken@gmail.com>,
	"Intel Graphics Development" <intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	"Matthew Wilcox" <willy@infradead.org>,
	"moderated list:DMA BUFFER SHARING FRAMEWORK"
	<linaro-mm-sig@lists.linaro.org>,
	"Jason Gunthorpe" <jgg@ziepe.ca>,
	"John Stultz" <john.stultz@linaro.org>,
	"DRI Development" <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	"Daniel Vetter" <daniel.vetter@intel.com>,
	"Suren Baghdasaryan" <surenb@google.com>,
	"open list:DMA BUFFER SHARING FRAMEWORK"
	<linux-media@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [Linaro-mm-sig] [PATCH 1/2] dma-buf: Require VM_PFNMAP vma for mmap
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2021 08:51:48 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c96145e3-1386-8a50-2ee6-6af61a60c861@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKMK7uEzGKUc27xdWTv7KPESsyg1kCYCmVxP3b-HrzNCNO5x7g@mail.gmail.com>



Am 11.03.21 um 14:17 schrieb Daniel Vetter:
> [SNIP]
>>>> So I did the following quick experiment on vmwgfx, and it turns out that
>>>> with it,
>>>> fast gup never succeeds. Without the "| PFN_MAP", it typically succeeds
>>>>
>>>> I should probably craft an RFC formalizing this.
>>> Yeah I think that would be good. Maybe even more formalized if we also
>>> switch over to VM_PFNMAP, since afaiui these pte flags here only stop the
>>> fast gup path. And slow gup can still peak through VM_MIXEDMAP. Or
>>> something like that.
>>>
>>> Otoh your description of when it only sometimes succeeds would indicate my
>>> understanding of VM_PFNMAP vs VM_MIXEDMAP is wrong here.
>> My understanding from reading the vmf_insert_mixed() code is that iff
>> the arch has pte_special(), VM_MIXEDMAP should be harmless. But that's
>> not consistent with the vm_normal_page() doc. For architectures without
>> pte_special, VM_PFNMAP must be used, and then we must also block COW
>> mappings.
>>
>> If we can get someone can commit to verify that the potential PAT WC
>> performance issue is gone with PFNMAP, I can put together a series with
>> that included.
> Iirc when I checked there's not much archs without pte_special, so I
> guess that's why we luck out. Hopefully.

I still need to read up a bit on what you guys are discussing here, but 
it starts to make a picture. Especially my understanding of what 
VM_MIXEDMAP means seems to have been slightly of.

I would say just go ahead and provide patches to always use VM_PFNMAP in 
TTM and we can test it and see if there are still some issues.

>> As for existing userspace using COW TTM mappings, I once had a couple of
>> test cases to verify that it actually worked, in particular together
>> with huge PMDs and PUDs where breaking COW would imply splitting those,
>> but I can't think of anything else actually wanting to do that other
>> than by mistake.
> Yeah disallowing MAP_PRIVATE mappings would be another good thing to
> lock down. Really doesn't make much sense.

Completely agree. That sounds like something we should try to avoid.

Regards,
Christian.

> -Daniel
>


  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-03-12  7:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-02-23 10:59 [PATCH 1/2] dma-buf: Require VM_PFNMAP vma for mmap Daniel Vetter
2021-02-24  7:46 ` [Linaro-mm-sig] " Thomas Hellström (Intel)
2021-02-24  8:45   ` Daniel Vetter
2021-02-24  9:15     ` Thomas Hellström (Intel)
2021-02-24  9:31       ` Daniel Vetter
2021-02-25 10:28         ` Christian König
2021-02-25 10:44           ` Daniel Vetter
2021-02-25 15:49             ` Daniel Vetter
2021-02-25 16:53               ` Christian König
2021-02-26  9:41               ` Thomas Hellström (Intel)
2021-02-26 13:28                 ` Daniel Vetter
2021-02-27  8:06                   ` Thomas Hellström (Intel)
2021-03-01  8:28                     ` Daniel Vetter
2021-03-01  8:39                       ` Thomas Hellström (Intel)
2021-03-01  9:05                         ` Daniel Vetter
2021-03-01  9:21                           ` Thomas Hellström (Intel)
2021-03-01 10:17                             ` Christian König
2021-03-01 14:09                               ` Daniel Vetter
2021-03-11 10:22                                 ` Thomas Hellström (Intel)
2021-03-11 13:00                                   ` Daniel Vetter
2021-03-11 13:12                                     ` Thomas Hellström (Intel)
2021-03-11 13:17                                       ` Daniel Vetter
2021-03-11 15:37                                         ` Thomas Hellström (Intel)
2021-03-12  7:51                                         ` Christian König [this message]
2021-02-24 18:46     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-02-25 10:30       ` Christian König
2021-02-25 10:45         ` Daniel Vetter
2021-02-26  3:57 ` John Stultz

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