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From: Bryan O'Donoghue <bod@kernel.org>
To: Vikash Garodia <vikash.garodia@oss.qualcomm.com>,
	Daniel J Blueman <daniel@quora.org>,
	Vikash Garodia <quic_vgarodia@quicinc.com>
Cc: Dikshita Agarwal <dikshita.agarwal@oss.qualcomm.com>,
	Abhinav Kumar <abhinav.kumar@linux.dev>,
	Bjorn Andersson <andersson@kernel.org>,
	Konrad Dybcio <konradybcio@kernel.org>,
	Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@kernel.org>,
	Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>,
	Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk+dt@kernel.org>,
	Conor Dooley <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
	linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org, linux-media@vger.kernel.org,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	stable@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] arm64: dts: qcom: hamoa: Reserve low IOVA range for Iris
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2026 14:01:42 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ccf4d126-c523-4ae4-8b17-a4cafab79b33@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cb37e7cc-4fb0-4c24-8f89-f6f9eb08a107@oss.qualcomm.com>

On 04/06/2026 07:38, Vikash Garodia wrote:
> 
> 
> On 6/2/2026 9:05 PM, Daniel J Blueman wrote:
>> On Tue, 2 Jun 2026 at 18:27, Bryan O'Donoghue <bod@kernel.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 01/06/2026 05:13, Daniel J Blueman wrote:
>>>> On X1-family hamoa platforms, Iris DMA below IOVA 0x25800000 (600MB)
>>>> triggers unhandled SMMU page faults
>>>
>>> How do we know that is a correct address - does it come from qcom
>>> documentation or trial and error ?
>>
>> @Vikash, beyond your comment I linked in the patch [1] kindly cite a
>> source for the different stream-ID <600MB behaviour, and share
>> specifics, eg if silicon, firmware, or driver and constraint, defect
>> or otherwise, so I can include a definitive description.
>>
>> Also good to know if my workaround is good for long-term, or on the
>> other hand handling streams <600MB is important/useful.
>>
> 
> Thanks Daniel for raising this patch. Did you also try the memory fix i
> mentioned in the bug [1] discussion ?
> 
> Coming to 600MB, this have been the VPU hardware restriction all the
> while since venus days, and since address could not go deeper all the
> way lower than 600MB, the issue never popped up earlier.
> 
> Consider the memory layout split as below (Iris device range is capped
> to 0xe0000000)
> 
> |-----600MB-----|-----(0xe0000000 - 600MB)-----|----IO reg--|
> 
> 0-600MB range, VPU hardware would reserve this to generate different
> stream-IDs primarily for internal (non-pixel) buffers.
> 
> 0-600 --> VPU would generate *secure* stream ID for non-pixel buffers
> 601 - 0xe0000000 --> VPU would generate non-secure stream ID for
> non-pixel buffers.
> 
> When many concurrent sessions were tried, non-pixel buffers were mapped
> into 0-600MB range, and VPU generated secure ID for those. Since those
> were not associated with the iommus configured for iris node, it led to
> USF (un-identified stream fault) and device would crash.
> 
> Keeping the region reserved, makes the non-pixel buffer always in the
> non secure range (601-..) and avoids the crash.
> 
> Downside of this design - It would eventually reserve 0-600MB un-map
> 'able for all buffer types, like pixel as well which do not have any
> such restriction.
> 
> Forward looking design - create devices dynamically and set reserve
> regions for those specific device using the api [1], instead of applying
> one reserve for all.
> 
> [1]
> https://lore.kernel.org/all/20260119054936.3350128-1-busanna.reddy@oss.qualcomm.com/
The problem here is in the reponse to the email you linked:

https://lore.kernel.org/all/cfd23f75-8952-4463-abd5-815b995031b0@arm.com/

- Inheriting the parent's properties is wrong
- We should just have a bus

But that leads us to churning DT and we'd have to figure out how/why to 
do it purely for the purpose of differentiating SIDs within Iris. There 
is no separate hardware - its one VPU which needs to figure out its IOVA 
for different SIDs.

Krzysztof would rightly say no - again - to putting collateral into DT 
to differentiate pixel streams based on SID, because that's not a 
hardware property.

- You have pixel and non-pixel SIDs that have to hit Linux
- You have to keep non-pixel allocations >= 600 MB
- You can allow pixel < 600mb =>
   Daniel's patch is too restrictive

But what we can do is add information to the iris platform descriptors 
to enumerate what are the valid IOVA ranges for pixel and non-pixel data 
and then change the allocation code to operate from those platform-code 
described IOVAs.

No new iommu properties, not arguing about plonking SID/pixel-path data 
into DT.

Just teach the driver what the valid ranges are and allocate IOVAs based 
on those ranges.

I think Daniel's patch should be taken as it fixes a real bug for users 
right now but, I equally think its a NAK for any new SoC.

This IOVA allocation needs to be tackled correctly and IMO that needs to 
be and should be done via platform descriptors for valid ranges of IOVA.

No mad stuff about SIDs in DT, no lengthy arguments about adding strange 
iommu properties.

---
bod

  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-06-09 13:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-06-01  4:13 [PATCH 1/2] dt-bindings: media: qcom,sm8550-iris: Allow IOVA reservation memory-region Daniel J Blueman
2026-06-01  4:13 ` [PATCH 2/2] arm64: dts: qcom: hamoa: Reserve low IOVA range for Iris Daniel J Blueman
2026-06-02 10:26   ` Bryan O'Donoghue
2026-06-02 15:03     ` Val Packett
2026-06-02 15:33       ` Bryan O'Donoghue
2026-06-02 15:35     ` Daniel J Blueman
2026-06-04  6:38       ` Vikash Garodia
2026-06-08  3:48         ` Val Packett
2026-06-08  4:17           ` Xilin Wu
2026-06-08 13:36           ` Bryan O'Donoghue
2026-06-09 13:01         ` Bryan O'Donoghue [this message]
2026-07-10 10:51           ` Bryan O'Donoghue
2026-06-10  1:14         ` Daniel J Blueman
2026-06-01  4:27 ` [PATCH 1/2] dt-bindings: media: qcom,sm8550-iris: Allow IOVA reservation memory-region sashiko-bot
2026-06-01 17:45 ` Rob Herring (Arm)
2026-06-04 19:15 ` Frank Li

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