From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-path: Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:55180 "EHLO lo.gmane.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752569Ab1FCDy0 (ORCPT ); Thu, 2 Jun 2011 23:54:26 -0400 Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QSLSr-00009Y-7T for linux-media@vger.kernel.org; Fri, 03 Jun 2011 05:54:25 +0200 Received: from 60.52.205.105 ([60.52.205.105]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 03 Jun 2011 05:54:25 +0200 Received: from bahathir by 60.52.205.105 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 03 Jun 2011 05:54:25 +0200 To: linux-media@vger.kernel.org From: Mohammad Bahathir Hashim Subject: Re: [linux-dvb] XC4000 patches for kernel 2.6.37.2 Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 03:54:13 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <4D764337.6050109@email.cz> <20110531124843.377a2a80@glory.local> <20110531174323.0f0c45c0@glory.local> <4DE7C2C0.9030900@redhat.com> Reply-To: Mohammad Bahathir Hashim Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-ID: Sender: Thank you for the comments and pointers. I am happy, at least there are peoples who want to see the xc4000 driver alive. On 2011-06-02, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote: > Em 02-06-2011 12:53, Mohammad Bahathir Hashim escreveu: >> Now I understood how thing works here, and it clear to me, why the >> xc4000 driver is not being included in mainline V4L2. >> >> It will be lots of commitments and hard work to be the maintainer, and >> I respect Mr. Devin's choice and decisions. There are several peoples >> that are interested in this driver, such as Mr. Istvan. I realized >> this driver does not have huge users/audiences, but still there are >> peoples who really need it. But, yeah, not everybody can 'port' the >> driver each time Linux kernel or V4L2 version being updated. >> >> In this case, IF no one is able to maintains the driver, how others >> can benefit the 'updated' driver or patches for the new V4L2 or Linux >> releases? >> > > Out of tree drivers tend to become obsolete on a few kernel releases, as the > internal kernel API's were not designed to be stable, as we want innovation > inside the kernel. So, people are free to change the internal APIs when > needed. > > That's why the best way is to submit patches upstream as they're ready > for it. > >> At the moment I still be able to port and test it for my private use. >> Sometime I sent the patches to Mr. Istvan to be included in his >> xc4000 driver's website, for other users to use it. >> >> BTW, I am not a programmer. I am just a system administrator, who only >> like to use shell scripts, awk, sed and grep. I only know how 'read' C, >> and can do SIMPLE 'porting' and testing tasks :). Still I really hope >> other developers able to include the analog TV/FM tuning and S-Video input >> feature to PCTV-340e. >> >> Anyway, if this driver is not elligible to be included in V4L2 >> mainline, I know where to 'push' my patches. :) > > Almost all drivers are eligible to be included, but the author needs to > submit them, or someone on their behalf. If the driver doesn't have enough > quality or needs some fixes, the submitter may need to fix it or, eventually, > move it to staging. > > With respect to xc4000, we need someone to test if the driver works after > the backports. Please test it and answer to us with a "Tested-by" tag. > > After the tests, it would be great to apply any pending patches for xc4000 > before cleaning it, as if we do the reverse, existing patches won't apply. > > Cheers, > Mauro >