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From: Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>
To: Takashi Sakamoto <o-takashi@sakamocchi.jp>
Cc: clemens@ladisch.de, alsa-devel@alsa-project.org,
	linux-media@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 0/2] ALSA: control: export all of TLV related macros to user land
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2016 15:41:51 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <s5hmvjfan34.wl-tiwai@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f8ef81e9-37a9-505e-ed66-2df9ae8070e8@sakamocchi.jp>

On Sat, 10 Sep 2016 09:25:31 +0200,
Takashi Sakamoto wrote:
> 
> On Sep 10 2016 15:44, Takashi Iwai wrote:
> > On Sat, 10 Sep 2016 06:50:14 +0200,
> > Takashi Sakamoto wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Currently, TLV related protocol is not shared to user land. This is not
> >> good in a point of application interfaces, because application developers
> >> can't realize the protocol just to see UAPI headers.
> >>
> >> For this purpose, this patchset moves all of macros related to TLV to UAPI
> >> header. As a result, a header just for kernel land is obsoleted. When adding
> >> new items to the protocol, it's added to the UAPI header. This change affects
> >> some drivers in media subsystem.
> >>
> >> In my concern, this change can break applications. When these macros are
> >> already defined in application side and they includes tlv UAPI header
> >> directly, 'redefined' warning is generated at preprocess time. But the
> >> compilation will be success itself. If these two macros have different
> >> content, the result of preprocess is dominated to the order to define.
> >> However, the most applications are assumed to use TLV feature via libraries
> >> such as alsa-lib, thus I'm optimistic to this concern.
> >>
> >> As another my concern, the name of these macros are quite simple, as
> >> 'TLV_XXX'. It might be help application developers to rename them with a
> >> prefix, as 'SNDRV_CTL_TLV_XXX'. (But not yet. I'm a lazy guy.)
> > 
> > The second patch does simply wrong.  You must not obsolete
> > include/sound/tlv.h.  Even if it includes only uapi/*, it should be
> > still there.
> 
> Any reasons?

The concept and the design.

Don't need to change the root inclusion, it's just to provide cleaner
uapi header files, and not meant to be included directly -- it was the
basic idea when uapi split was introduced.


Takashi

  reply	other threads:[~2016-09-10 13:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-09-10  4:50 [RFC][PATCH 0/2] ALSA: control: export all of TLV related macros to user land Takashi Sakamoto
2016-09-10  4:50 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/2] ALSA: control: export layout of TLV payload to UAPI header Takashi Sakamoto
2016-09-10  4:50 ` [RFC][PATCH 2/2] ALSA: control: replace include statements for UAPI TLV header Takashi Sakamoto
2016-09-10  6:44 ` [RFC][PATCH 0/2] ALSA: control: export all of TLV related macros to user land Takashi Iwai
2016-09-10  7:25   ` Takashi Sakamoto
2016-09-10 13:41     ` Takashi Iwai [this message]
2016-09-11  3:06       ` Takashi Sakamoto
2016-09-11  7:22         ` Takashi Iwai

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