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From: "Pali Rohár" <pali@kernel.org>
To: Hans Zhang <18255117159@163.com>
Cc: bhelgaas@google.com, lpieralisi@kernel.org,
	kwilczynski@kernel.org, mani@kernel.org, vigneshr@ti.com,
	jingoohan1@gmail.com, thomas.petazzoni@bootlin.com,
	ryder.lee@mediatek.com, jianjun.wang@mediatek.com,
	claudiu.beznea.uj@bp.renesas.com, mpillai@cadence.com,
	robh@kernel.org, s-vadapalli@ti.com, linux-omap@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-mediatek@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-renesas-soc@vger.kernel.org, linux-pci@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 6/8] PCI: aardvark: Add 100 ms delay after link training
Date: Wed, 13 May 2026 09:20:08 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260513072008.vol4htgbzquly2rb@pali> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <581e91fb-2e57-43ed-b79d-19dbf384b955@163.com>

On Wednesday 13 May 2026 15:00:04 Hans Zhang wrote:
> 
> 
> On 5/13/26 05:25, Pali Rohár wrote:
> > On Wednesday 06 May 2026 23:23:44 Hans Zhang wrote:
> > > The Aardvark PCIe controller driver waits for the link to come up but
> > > does not implement the mandatory 100 ms delay after link training
> > > completes for speeds greater than 5.0 GT/s (PCIe r6.0 sec 6.6.1).
> > > 
> > > The driver already maintains a 'link_gen' field that holds the negotiated
> > > link speed. Use it together with pcie_wait_after_link_train() to insert
> > > the required delay immediately after confirming that the link is up.
> > > 
> > > Signed-off-by: Hans Zhang <18255117159@163.com>
> > > ---
> > >   drivers/pci/controller/pci-aardvark.c | 4 +++-
> > >   1 file changed, 3 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
> > > 
> > > diff --git a/drivers/pci/controller/pci-aardvark.c b/drivers/pci/controller/pci-aardvark.c
> > > index e34bea1ff0ac..526351c21c49 100644
> > > --- a/drivers/pci/controller/pci-aardvark.c
> > > +++ b/drivers/pci/controller/pci-aardvark.c
> > > @@ -350,8 +350,10 @@ static int advk_pcie_wait_for_link(struct advk_pcie *pcie)
> > >   	/* check if the link is up or not */
> > >   	for (retries = 0; retries < LINK_WAIT_MAX_RETRIES; retries++) {
> > > -		if (advk_pcie_link_up(pcie))
> > > +		if (advk_pcie_link_up(pcie)) {
> > > +			pcie_wait_after_link_train(pcie->link_gen);
> > >   			return 0;
> > > +		}
> > >   		usleep_range(LINK_WAIT_USLEEP_MIN, LINK_WAIT_USLEEP_MAX);
> > >   	}
> > > -- 
> > > 2.34.1
> > > 
> > 
> > Are you sure that this is correct to do? Have you checked the A3720
> > Functional Specification which describes how to bring PCIe link up?
> > 
> > A3720 PCIe controller is buggy and needs more timing hacks to make it
> > behave. Playing with random sleeps can break its internal logic.
> > I'm not sure if it could be safe without proper testing.
> > 
> > And IIRC A3720 PCIe controller is just PCIe2.0 with 5 GT/s.
> 
> 
> Hi Pali,
> 
> 1. This driver does not support A3720.
> 
> static const struct of_device_id advk_pcie_of_match_table[] = {
> 	{ .compatible = "marvell,armada-3700-pcie", },
> 	{},
> };
> MODULE_DEVICE_TABLE(of, advk_pcie_of_match_table);
> 
> If you need support for A3720, please submit the corresponding patch so that
> Bjorn and Mani can review it.

3700 (or 37xx) is family and covers both a3710 and a3720. In most cases is the
a3720 dominant and hence identifiers 3700 and 3720 are begin mixed.

> 
> 2. If A3720 only supports GEN2, you can configure "max-link-speed" to be 2
> in the DT. This will not affect the functionality of this patch.

Whole A37xx supports only GEN2. And in DT files for 37xx should be
already there max-link-speed.

Seems that in advk_pcie_of_match_table there is no GEN3 device
specified.

> 3. This patch is a common delay requirement stipulated by the PCIe
> specification. If it is greater than GEN2, then msleep(100) will be added;
> otherwise, there will be no such delay.
> 
> 4. For instance, we often come across the situation where some common APIs
> are modified, and in many cases, their functionality does not require the
> actual development board for verification. I believe that many other
> developers and maintainers have modified different parts of the code. For
> example, the recent submission:

Switching one API to another is one thing. But changing code which looks
to be critical, specially when it is known that hw has bugs, can cause
breaking of existing boards.

> commit 750277048afe7ce8ebfc0b120de7dfbc745058a7
> Author: Nam Cao <namcao@linutronix.de>
> Date:   Thu Jun 26 16:47:53 2025 +0200
> 
>     PCI: aardvark: Switch to msi_create_parent_irq_domain()
> 
>     Switch to msi_create_parent_irq_domain() from
> pci_msi_create_irq_domain()
>     which was using legacy MSI domain setup.
> 
> 
> And many controller drivers have been modified.
> 
> 
> Best regards,
> Hans
> 
> 


  reply	other threads:[~2026-05-13  7:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-05-06 15:23 [PATCH v2 0/8] PCI: Add common helper for 100 ms delay after link training Hans Zhang
2026-05-06 15:23 ` [PATCH v2 1/8] PCI: Add pcie_wait_after_link_train() helper Hans Zhang
2026-05-06 15:34   ` Biju Das
2026-05-06 16:16     ` Hans Zhang
2026-05-06 15:55   ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2026-05-06 16:13     ` Hans Zhang
2026-05-06 15:23 ` [PATCH v2 2/8] PCI: cadence: LGA: Add max_link_speed field and 100 ms delay after link training Hans Zhang
2026-05-06 15:31   ` Biju Das
2026-05-06 16:21     ` Hans Zhang
2026-05-06 16:27       ` Biju Das
2026-05-06 16:31         ` Hans Zhang
2026-05-06 16:03   ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2026-05-06 16:14     ` Hans Zhang
2026-05-06 15:23 ` [PATCH v2 3/8] PCI: cadence: HPA: Add " Hans Zhang
2026-05-06 15:23 ` [PATCH v2 4/8] PCI: j721e: Set max_link_speed to enable 100 ms delay after link up Hans Zhang
2026-05-06 16:04   ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2026-05-06 16:11     ` Hans Zhang
2026-05-06 16:51       ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2026-05-06 15:23 ` [PATCH v2 5/8] PCI: dwc: Use common pcie_wait_after_link_train() helper Hans Zhang
2026-05-06 15:23 ` [PATCH v2 6/8] PCI: aardvark: Add 100 ms delay after link training Hans Zhang
2026-05-12 21:25   ` Pali Rohár
2026-05-13  7:00     ` Hans Zhang
2026-05-13  7:20       ` Pali Rohár [this message]
2026-05-13  7:34         ` Hans Zhang
2026-05-13 18:54           ` Pali Rohár
2026-05-06 15:23 ` [PATCH v2 7/8] PCI: mediatek-gen3: " Hans Zhang
2026-05-06 15:23 ` [PATCH v2 8/8] PCI: rzg3s-host: " Hans Zhang
2026-05-06 16:52   ` Claudiu Beznea
2026-05-09 16:25     ` Hans Zhang

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