From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org Received: from bombadil.infradead.org (bombadil.infradead.org [198.137.202.133]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 75A37C61D92 for ; Wed, 22 Nov 2023 08:59:40 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=lists.infradead.org; s=bombadil.20210309; h=Sender:List-Subscribe:List-Help :List-Post:List-Archive:List-Unsubscribe:List-Id:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-Type:Message-ID:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date: MIME-Version:Reply-To:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From: Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Owner; bh=wnDXFhBLQlKfT9VPeq9LXcsvxwXZ+3LJM0WRVA0R01o=; b=RDtnkTQZryKam0h65xMsy6/Wbh pjvPk/9s01PJmrlPrpmjLqwt9ds6wqSB3HyfRiMt6/EItKmhlg9wrKEGem5KvWiARrpm+LvZeMW+T YLWYAy0wgmtZR93Qfxiv5mqJRwuZSX6JqRKEJV7c6uFxIiI69rCbwgx4OuaXKIOmoAQ4OrEY8Mcka 2+B7phcv2qanfP2uz+vM8zve8mhjFTA6yk5M51uwKVgrB1EFltGweazJz2b89l1JKiV39DFfbLtjV A5XuL7T6SqUrM/jN9D/zoj1enTaHLuKZerkzKxSsV/y1K42CVEPPnoKtoExY26Ti7FEayP9VTer2H L4IUPqwA==; Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=bombadil.infradead.org) by bombadil.infradead.org with esmtp (Exim 4.96 #2 (Red Hat Linux)) id 1r5j59-0017nl-1O; Wed, 22 Nov 2023 08:59:39 +0000 Received: from mail.manjaro.org ([116.203.91.91]) by bombadil.infradead.org with esmtps (Exim 4.96 #2 (Red Hat Linux)) id 1r5j53-0017m5-1m; Wed, 22 Nov 2023 08:59:36 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=manjaro.org; s=2021; t=1700643571; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=wnDXFhBLQlKfT9VPeq9LXcsvxwXZ+3LJM0WRVA0R01o=; b=X+/dx7tWETvpV6gVT/ojMQT0+o9PIAThm56C4ZtSXKgZB1dvcAJu9Asl9lzeqFNrolWWA/ fIfQQeRvQXZQ3PnQbr6r47EdYWVRln1eF6jmC8DPhFCHYnuInvNDEC/EtbQJGqE8LlAI85 eLWoEaodlQy7XaKwt1NAO47EQVGOeIUf9C7+eahxyoDG5T0AOzxca0MAbLgAonmNfoGGU6 2zQfmtOdDaA/vx49kVM+Gg+TeMx8MFMkBkWsQzEME2otNiDk9cimPFw6RDCWWxWUd6xxdI HWBwUcwJM+c4aSa6N7ASwlI6vVR+x1l9bK2JozzLINjyAXkQOl3FuagPRBXO5A== Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2023 09:59:29 +0100 From: Dragan Simic To: Michal Simek Cc: Krzysztof Kozlowski , wens@kernel.org, =?UTF-8?Q?Rafa=C5=82_Mi=C5=82ecki?= , Rob Herring , Krzysztof Kozlowski , Conor Dooley , Matthias Brugger , AngeloGioacchino Del Regno , devicetree@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, linux-mediatek@lists.infradead.org, Andrew Davis , Arnd Bergmann , Bjorn Andersson , Geert Uytterhoeven , Heiko Stuebner , Konrad Dybcio , Neil Armstrong , Nishanth Menon , Olof Johansson , linux-rockchip@lists.infradead.org, linux-samsung-soc@vger.kernel.org, linux-amlogic@lists.infradead.org, linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] docs: dt-bindings: add DTS Coding Style document In-Reply-To: References: <20231120084044.23838-1-krzysztof.kozlowski@linaro.org> <6b288a2e-d147-4bd3-b1d4-daf56295d939@gmail.com> <01f9ce3b-e6e5-4b05-bf7f-0b3a5f74910a@linaro.org> <7232a48b-b9ad-44b5-ae6a-d12dad70b3c4@linaro.org> <58a9caacc1226c7c3a2bdfe73ef1791f@manjaro.org> Message-ID: X-Sender: dsimic@manjaro.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Authentication-Results: ORIGINATING; auth=pass smtp.auth=dsimic@manjaro.org smtp.mailfrom=dsimic@manjaro.org X-CRM114-Version: 20100106-BlameMichelson ( TRE 0.8.0 (BSD) ) MR-646709E3 X-CRM114-CacheID: sfid-20231122_005934_532532_D38D19B6 X-CRM114-Status: GOOD ( 20.60 ) X-BeenThere: linux-mediatek@lists.infradead.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: "Linux-mediatek" Errors-To: linux-mediatek-bounces+linux-mediatek=archiver.kernel.org@lists.infradead.org On 2023-11-22 09:49, Michal Simek wrote: > On 11/22/23 09:29, Dragan Simic wrote: >> On 2023-11-22 09:21, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote: >>> On 22/11/2023 09:09, Chen-Yu Tsai wrote: >>>> On Wed, Nov 22, 2023 at 4:05 PM Krzysztof Kozlowski >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> On 21/11/2023 14:50, Rafał Miłecki wrote: >>>>>>> +Order of Properties in Device Node >>>>>>> +---------------------------------- >>>>>>> + >>>>>>> +Following order of properties in device nodes is preferred: >>>>>>> + >>>>>>> +1. compatible >>>>>>> +2. reg >>>>>>> +3. ranges >>>>>>> +4. Standard/common properties (defined by common bindings, e.g. >>>>>>> without >>>>>>> +   vendor-prefixes) >>>>>>> +5. Vendor-specific properties >>>>>>> +6. status (if applicable) >>>>>>> +7. Child nodes, where each node is preceded with a blank line >>>>>>> + >>>>>>> +The "status" property is by default "okay", thus it can be >>>>>>> omitted. >>>>>> >>>>>> I think it would really help to include position of #address-cells >>>>>> and >>>>>> #size-cells here. In some files I saw them above "compatible" that >>>>>> seems >>>>>> unintuitive. Some prefer putting them at end which I think makes >>>>>> sense >>>>>> as they affect children nodes. >>>>>> >>>>>> Whatever you choose it'd be just nice to have things consistent. >>>>> >>>>> This is a standard/common property, thus it goes to (4) above. >>>> >>>> It's probably a mix, but AFAIK a lot of the device trees in tree >>>> have >>>> #*-cells after "status". In some cases they are added in the board >>>> .dts files, not the chip/module .dtsi files. >>> >>> Existing DTS is not a good example :) >>> >>>> >>>> +1 that it makes sense at the end as they affect child nodes. >>> >>> I still insist that status must be the last, because: >>> 1. Many SoC nodes have address/size cells but do not have any >>> children >>> (I2C, SPI), so we put useless information at the end. >>> 2. Status should be the final information to say whether the node is >>> ready or is not. I read the node, check properties and then look at >>> the end: >>> a. Lack of status means it is ready. >>> b. status=disabled means device still needs board >>> resources/customization >> >> I agree with the "status" belonging to the very end, because it's both >> logical and much more readable.  Also, "status" is expected to be >> modified in the dependent DT files, which makes it kind of volatile >> and even more deserving to be placed last. > > I am just curious if having status property at the end won't affect > execution/boot up time. Not sure how it is done in Linux but in U-Boot > at least (we want to have DTs in sync between Linux and U-Boot) > of_find_property is pretty much big loop over all properties. And > status property defined at the end means going over all of them to > find it out to if device is present. > Not sure if Linux works in the same way but at least of_get_property > is done in the same way. > > It is not big deal on high speed cpus but wanted to point it out. That's a good point, saving every possible CPU cycle counts, so if we can exit early, why not. However, that's perhaps something to be handled within the dtc utility, by having it rearrange the properties. I'll investigate that in detail.