From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Tue, 16 May 2000 11:07:51 +0000 Received: from pneumatic-tube.sgi.com ([204.94.214.22]:344 "EHLO pneumatic-tube.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Tue, 16 May 2000 11:07:42 +0000 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by pneumatic-tube.sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id EAA08490; Tue, 16 May 2000 04:12:12 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com) Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id DAA44804 for linux-list; Tue, 16 May 2000 03:59:42 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id DAA43722; Tue, 16 May 2000 03:59:37 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (kevink@mips.com) Received: from mx.mips.com (mx.mips.com [206.31.31.226]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id DAA01062; Tue, 16 May 2000 03:59:37 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (kevink@mips.com) Received: from newman.mips.com (newman [206.31.31.8]) by mx.mips.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) with ESMTP id DAA26933; Tue, 16 May 2000 03:59:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from satanas (satanas [192.168.236.12]) by newman.mips.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) with SMTP id DAA26380; Tue, 16 May 2000 03:59:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <00a301bfbf26$363a5c00$0ceca8c0@satanas.mips.com> From: "Kevin D. Kissell" To: "Florian Lohoff" , "Ralf Baechle" Cc: "Geert Uytterhoeven" , "Ulf Carlsson" , , , Subject: Re: Indy Documentation Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 13:02:15 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linuxmips-outgoing -----Original Message----- From: Florian Lohoff To: Ralf Baechle Cc: Geert Uytterhoeven ; Ulf Carlsson ; linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com ; linux-mips@fnet.fr ; linux-mips@vger.rutgers.edu Date: Tuesday, May 16, 2000 12:22 PM Subject: Re: Indy Documentation .... >> Also I found that there is still a huge pile of Exabyte tapes that have the >> final full backup from the day when MIPS Computer Systems, Inc. was >> shutdown by SGI after MIPS got bought in the early 90's. That means that >> provided the legal problems involved with publication of such documentation >> get solved we now have everything that is required to support every machine >> ever made by MIPS Computer Systems, Inc. > >How will these legal issues be brought on the track ? I think both >companies (SGI + Mips) should have an interest to free up these documents >or at least hand out to some people who sign some kind of NDA. > >Flo While MIPS Technologies Inc owns the microprocessor IP of the old MIPS Computer Systems, as well as much that was developed while MIPS was part of SGI, it is less than obvious what rights or responsibilites the new MIPS Technologies has with respect to the computer systems part of the pre-SGI MIPS business. It is quite possible that all that stuff stayed with SGI when MIPS Technologies spun out. I will forward the message to our legal people and see what they have to say. __ Kevin D. Kissell MIPS Technologies European Architecture Lab kevink@mips.com Tel. +33.4.78.38.70.67 FAX. +33.4.78.38.70.68 From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: <00a301bfbf26$363a5c00$0ceca8c0@satanas.mips.com> From: "Kevin D. Kissell" Subject: Re: Indy Documentation Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 13:02:15 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linuxmips@oss.sgi.com Return-Path: To: Florian Lohoff , Ralf Baechle Cc: Geert Uytterhoeven , Ulf Carlsson , linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com, linux-mips@fnet.fr, linux-mips@vger.rutgers.edu Message-ID: <20000516110215.rnLaukMxdRYrO1YoxiXuS0nmsybLH-JcyKOSZBatS44@z> -----Original Message----- From: Florian Lohoff To: Ralf Baechle Cc: Geert Uytterhoeven ; Ulf Carlsson ; linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com ; linux-mips@fnet.fr ; linux-mips@vger.rutgers.edu Date: Tuesday, May 16, 2000 12:22 PM Subject: Re: Indy Documentation .... >> Also I found that there is still a huge pile of Exabyte tapes that have the >> final full backup from the day when MIPS Computer Systems, Inc. was >> shutdown by SGI after MIPS got bought in the early 90's. That means that >> provided the legal problems involved with publication of such documentation >> get solved we now have everything that is required to support every machine >> ever made by MIPS Computer Systems, Inc. > >How will these legal issues be brought on the track ? I think both >companies (SGI + Mips) should have an interest to free up these documents >or at least hand out to some people who sign some kind of NDA. > >Flo While MIPS Technologies Inc owns the microprocessor IP of the old MIPS Computer Systems, as well as much that was developed while MIPS was part of SGI, it is less than obvious what rights or responsibilites the new MIPS Technologies has with respect to the computer systems part of the pre-SGI MIPS business. It is quite possible that all that stuff stayed with SGI when MIPS Technologies spun out. I will forward the message to our legal people and see what they have to say. __ Kevin D. Kissell MIPS Technologies European Architecture Lab kevink@mips.com Tel. +33.4.78.38.70.67 FAX. +33.4.78.38.70.68