From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id IAA02309; Wed, 28 May 1997 08:18:17 -0700 Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id IAA13282 for linux-list; Wed, 28 May 1997 08:17:48 -0700 Received: from yon.engr.sgi.com (yon.engr.sgi.com [150.166.61.32]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id IAA13259 for ; Wed, 28 May 1997 08:17:44 -0700 Received: (from ariel@localhost) by yon.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id IAA10342 for linux; Wed, 28 May 1997 08:17:44 -0700 From: ariel@yon.engr.sgi.com (Ariel Faigon) Message-Id: <199705281517.IAA10342@yon.engr.sgi.com> Subject: hardware independent hinv To: linux@yon.engr.sgi.com Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 08:17:44 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: ariel@sgi.com (Ariel Faigon) Organization: Silicon Graphics Inc. X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME5a] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Just forwarding since it sounds someone hopes that Linux/MIPS will some day have a HW independent hinv... - Ariel ----- Forwarded message from Dave Olson ----- >>From olson@anchor Mon May 12 13:50:21 1997 Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 13:50:18 -0700 From: olson@anchor (Dave Olson) Message-Id: <199705122050.NAA26767@anchor.engr.sgi.com> To: olson@anchor (Dave Olson), scotth@sgi.com Subject: Re: missing machfile Cc: swmgr@swmgr, breyer@swmgr, ariel@cthulhu References: <199705121525.IAA23143@swmgr.engr.sgi.com> <199705121714.KAA23773@anchor.engr.sgi.com> <199705121854.LAA18312@anchor.engr.sgi.com> | I would assume that hinv is hardware-dependent, because of the | mapping issues? Or is it table driven off of an analogue of the machtab? Still all compiled in. Bug/rfe open for years now about making it table driven. | Unfortunately, nothing better is generally available across | platforms and releases. Yes, and that's something that would be nice to fix. Maybe linux will do it, and we can copy them. | D> Lots, for any non-trivial app. They don't have to, but often want to. | | ??? Non-trivial as in "big and powerful", or as in "gets close to | the hardware"? I would argue that emacs and perl both fit the Both/either. Not all big apps, of course. | I was looking at the options to uname, specifically "-p". Based | upon the man page, shouldn't `uname -p` return "mips3" instead of | "mips" for my IP22? That is one obvious meaning for: Yes, but then you break even more of the configure scripts. Again, a no-win situation. | I was just curious is there was somehow we could make life easier | for configure scripts to port software for IRIX... On the other | hand, we generally only get bad comments about /bin/install, and at | least we *don't* get comments like: | # AIX cpp loses on an empty file, so make sure it contains at least a newline. Using cpp is a horrible solution... | It is hard to add functionality without breaking stuff. A programmer's lament, if I ever heard one! Dave Olson, Silicon Graphics Guru and busybody at large http://reality.sgi.com/olson olson@sgi.com ----- End of forwarded message from Dave Olson ----- -- Peace, Ariel From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: From: ariel@yon.engr.sgi.com (Ariel Faigon) Message-ID: <199705281517.IAA10342@yon.engr.sgi.com> Subject: hardware independent hinv Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 08:17:44 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: ariel@sgi.com (Ariel Faigon) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com To: linux@yon.engr.sgi.com Message-ID: <19970528151744.t9RnE26-zsJ7vtQ3ANaYomQeKVzHYgSt1ypAPkcZ4mI@z> Just forwarding since it sounds someone hopes that Linux/MIPS will some day have a HW independent hinv... - Ariel ----- Forwarded message from Dave Olson ----- >From olson@anchor Mon May 12 13:50:21 1997 Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 13:50:18 -0700 From: olson@anchor (Dave Olson) Message-Id: <199705122050.NAA26767@anchor.engr.sgi.com> To: olson@anchor (Dave Olson), scotth@sgi.com Subject: Re: missing machfile Cc: swmgr@swmgr, breyer@swmgr, ariel@cthulhu References: <199705121525.IAA23143@swmgr.engr.sgi.com> <199705121714.KAA23773@anchor.engr.sgi.com> <199705121854.LAA18312@anchor.engr.sgi.com> | I would assume that hinv is hardware-dependent, because of the | mapping issues? Or is it table driven off of an analogue of the machtab? Still all compiled in. Bug/rfe open for years now about making it table driven. | Unfortunately, nothing better is generally available across | platforms and releases. Yes, and that's something that would be nice to fix. Maybe linux will do it, and we can copy them. | D> Lots, for any non-trivial app. They don't have to, but often want to. | | ??? Non-trivial as in "big and powerful", or as in "gets close to | the hardware"? I would argue that emacs and perl both fit the Both/either. Not all big apps, of course. | I was looking at the options to uname, specifically "-p". Based | upon the man page, shouldn't `uname -p` return "mips3" instead of | "mips" for my IP22? That is one obvious meaning for: Yes, but then you break even more of the configure scripts. Again, a no-win situation. | I was just curious is there was somehow we could make life easier | for configure scripts to port software for IRIX... On the other | hand, we generally only get bad comments about /bin/install, and at | least we *don't* get comments like: | # AIX cpp loses on an empty file, so make sure it contains at least a newline. Using cpp is a horrible solution... | It is hard to add functionality without breaking stuff. A programmer's lament, if I ever heard one! Dave Olson, Silicon Graphics Guru and busybody at large http://reality.sgi.com/olson olson@sgi.com ----- End of forwarded message from Dave Olson ----- -- Peace, Ariel