From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id CAA09303 for ; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 02:10:20 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo-owner@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id CAA79411 for linux-list; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 02:09:32 -0800 (PST) mail_from (owner-linux@relay.engr.sgi.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id CAA93002 for ; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 02:09:30 -0800 (PST) mail_from (eedthwo@eede.ericsson.se) Received: from penguin.wise.edt.ericsson.se (penguin-ext.wise.edt.ericsson.se [194.237.142.5]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id CAA00118 for ; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 02:09:26 -0800 (PST) mail_from (eedthwo@eede.ericsson.se) Received: from eede.ericsson.se (eede.eede.ericsson.se [164.48.127.16]) by penguin.wise.edt.ericsson.se (8.9.0/8.9.0/WIREfire-1.2) with SMTP id LAA12079; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 11:08:48 +0100 (MET) Received: from sun173.eu (sun173.eede.ericsson.se) by eede.ericsson.se (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA01976; Wed, 20 Jan 99 11:08:49 +0100 Received: by sun173.eu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id LAA19733; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 11:08:48 +0100 Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 11:08:48 +0100 Message-Id: <199901201008.LAA19733@sun173.eu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Tom Woelfel To: "Trevor Jennings" Cc: Linux SGI Subject: Installing Linux on Indy In-Reply-To: <199901191346.IAA22005@develop.nmdg.com> References: <199901191346.IAA22005@develop.nmdg.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.31 under 20.2 XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: eedthwo@eede.ericsson.se Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Trevor Jennings writes: > Hi, Hi Trevor, > Well, I am new to this mailing list and am thinking of installing Linux on > my trusty old Indy and was wondering if there was in fact any other way of > installing the hardhat release instead of having another linux box to boot > from? I was thinking of downloading the release onto jaz disk and > installing it from there, is that possible? I believe it is great that there > is a linux port happening for the SGI, especially since I use the computer > for home use and spending $600 for a newer Irix (I'm using 5.3) just isnt > worth it. Plux the fact the it seems the Indy is getting more popular as a > second hand machine and its good to have an alternative OS running on it. > Not that there is nothing wrong with Irix, in fact its great!! Just that its > so expensive to upgrade! Another reason for installing Linux too is that > from using Linux for several years now, I'd like to contribute software to > the linux community. Same problem here: I don't want to buy the very expensive IRIX (I would be glad to get IRIX5.3 without spending a trillion bucks). And so the important question again: Is it possible (will it be possible) to install Linux on an Indy without Irix? Obviously - NO. And the SGI Hype for their new NT-Boxes is floating this mailing list too much. SGI has lost my respect - their treatment of second-hand-machine-buyers is #$%^@#. For an old SGI disk I've searched 1 week in the web to get the jumper-settings to reset the spin-up-delay-at-boot - nothing (The disk was purposed to be built into my PS/2). So I called SGI A call to SGI-Munich a few weeks ago: T: "Hi, i'm desperately seeking for the specs of the disk blabla. Could you please tell me which jumper I have to set to blabla" SGI: "No." T: "You mean, you don't know." SGI: "I mean, you have to pay 380 DM/hour to let us look, if we _have_ the information." T: "I have to pay only for the information that the specs are available or not?" SGI: "Right." T: (On the contrary Hyundai, where I called for the freq-range of an old 14" and get a handmade copy of the complete reference-manual and the Wiring Diagrams - 2 days later) Sorry - this is another off-topic posting - but in the meanwhile I'm a little sick of those SGI-folks only writing about their new VW 320 and 540 and the gigantic milestones of those ..... No major breakthroughs in Linux/SGI - on the mailing list there is a huge traffic ? Something _is_ wrong. //Tom P.S.: I've re-read this mail. And I think it sounds a little bit too angry. But SGI to me as a customer is a disappointment; and the only reason that I haven't sold the Indy yet is that Linux exist for it.