From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: by oss.sgi.com id ; Mon, 21 Aug 2000 20:56:15 -0700 Received: from deliverator.sgi.com ([204.94.214.10]:2845 "EHLO deliverator.sgi.com") by oss.sgi.com with ESMTP id ; Mon, 21 Aug 2000 20:55:54 -0700 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (gate3-relay.engr.sgi.com [130.62.1.234]) by deliverator.sgi.com (980309.SGI.8.8.8-aspam-6.2/980310.SGI-aspam) via ESMTP id UAA26755 for ; Mon, 21 Aug 2000 20:48:11 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (adi@mr-happy.com) Received: from sgi.com (sgi.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.37]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id UAA44868 for ; Mon, 21 Aug 2000 20:55:31 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (adi@mr-happy.com) Received: from brainguy.tc.mtu.edu (brainguy.tc.mtu.edu [141.219.5.85]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id UAA09725 for ; Mon, 21 Aug 2000 20:55:29 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (adi@mr-happy.com) Received: from crow.mr-happy.com (crow.mr-happy.com [172.19.3.81]) by brainguy.tc.mtu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id D811C1A196; Mon, 21 Aug 2000 23:55:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: by crow.mr-happy.com (Postfix, from userid 22448) id CEF418D58; Mon, 21 Aug 2000 23:55:20 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 22:55:20 -0500 From: Andy Isaacson To: James Simmons , i15@ornl.gov Cc: linux-fbdev@vuser.vu.union.edu, linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: [linux-fbdev] SGI VW 540, fbdev and pot pourii of faults and evidence..:-) Message-ID: <20000821225520.A25330@mr-happy.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i In-Reply-To: ; from jsimmons@acsu.buffalo.edu on Wed, Aug 09, 2000 at 07:17:02PM -0400 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 48 01 21 E2 D4 E4 68 D1 B8 DF 39 B2 AF A3 16 B9 X-PGP-Key-URL: http://web.mr-happy.com/~adi/pgp.txt Sender: owner-linux-mips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-mips-outgoing On Wed, Aug 09, 2000 at 07:17:02PM -0400, James Simmons wrote: > > I would also like to ask, if SGI is likely to make the hardware specs OSS > > (for cobalt etc.), so that those with the skill (this is not my forte, but > > I will try...), can stabilise this otherwise competent port. > > Nope. SGI no longer supports Visual Workstations with linux. I don't even > know if they support Visual Workstatiosn period. It would be nice if they > did release the specs anyways :-) SGI never did support the Visual Workstation 540 and 320 in Linux. There did exist some code, but it was never a formal SGI product. On Wed, Aug 09, 2000 at 07:28:07PM -0400, philloc@tigger.ccs.ornl.gov wrote: > Anyone from SGI care to comment on why SGI has not released the > specs to reasonable attention, since they are unable to help port? I don't speak for SGI, but in the past I think they said that the specs basically do not exist in a releasable form. Basically, the hardware developers and software developers worked in the same hallway and the development was of the form "hey Joe, how do I program the zapbot to do foobaz?" OK, maybe that's not quite accurate, but the result is that there are no plans to release specs. -andy -- Andy Isaacson http://web.mr-happy.com/~adi/ I want to buy your broken laptop! http://web.mr-happy.com/~adi/laptop.html