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From: Ralf Baechle <ralf@linux-mips.org>
To: Dominic Sweetman <dom@algor.co.uk>
Cc: Thiemo Seufer <ica2_ts@csv.ica.uni-stuttgart.de>,
	"Maciej W. Rozycki" <macro@ds2.pg.gda.pl>,
	Carsten Langgaard <carstenl@mips.com>,
	"Kevin D. Kissell" <kevink@mips.com>,
	linux-mips@linux-mips.org
Subject: Re: Latest sources from CVS.
Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2002 00:17:31 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20021207001731.D12968@linux-mips.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <15856.59886.661994.493446@gladsmuir.algor.co.uk>; from dom@algor.co.uk on Fri, Dec 06, 2002 at 06:18:22PM +0000

On Fri, Dec 06, 2002 at 06:18:22PM +0000, Dominic Sweetman wrote:

> > The first kernel was built as 64-bit ELF using 64-bit pointer and everything
> > 64-bit.  The second kernel was built using the -Wa,-32 trick.  That's over
> > 12% of bloat for full 64-bitiness which brings zero gain.
> 
> Percentages are dangerous things.  This is 220Kbytes of memory, which
> currently represents an investment of about $0.05.  There may be
> embedded linux applications which care about 5c cost, but they
> probably won't use any variety of 64 bits...

I'd worry less if that was just 220kB of unused memory wasted.  But it's
actually inflated code, it's wasted i-cache and cycles.  220kB translates
to alost 7 times the size of today's typical 32kB i-cache.

Even if Thiemo was right this trick is probably the biggest micro-
optimization of the decade ...

  Ralf

  parent reply	other threads:[~2002-12-06 23:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-12-04  8:34 Latest sources from CVS Carsten Langgaard
2002-12-04  9:09 ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-12-04  9:09   ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-12-04 13:04   ` Ralf Baechle
2002-12-05  3:34   ` Ralf Baechle
2002-12-05 11:14     ` Carsten Langgaard
2002-12-05 13:47       ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2002-12-05 14:12         ` Carsten Langgaard
2002-12-05 14:27           ` Ralf Baechle
2002-12-06 12:52           ` Carsten Langgaard
2002-12-06 13:07             ` Ralf Baechle
2002-12-06 13:24               ` Carsten Langgaard
2002-12-06 13:24             ` Thiemo Seufer
2002-12-06 13:34               ` Thiemo Seufer
2002-12-06 13:41                 ` Carsten Langgaard
2002-12-06 13:51                   ` Thiemo Seufer
2002-12-06 16:32                     ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2002-12-06 16:45                       ` Thiemo Seufer
2002-12-06 17:01                         ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2002-12-06 17:24                           ` Thiemo Seufer
2002-12-06 18:04                             ` Ralf Baechle
2002-12-06 18:30                             ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2002-12-06 18:41                               ` Thiemo Seufer
2002-12-06 18:58                                 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2002-12-06 17:02                         ` Ralf Baechle
2002-12-06 17:15                           ` Thiemo Seufer
2002-12-06 17:34                           ` Greg Lindahl
2002-12-06 18:18                           ` Dominic Sweetman
2002-12-06 18:40                             ` Greg Lindahl
2002-12-06 23:17                             ` Ralf Baechle [this message]
2002-12-06 23:33                               ` Thiemo Seufer
2002-12-07  0:00                                 ` Ralf Baechle

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