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From: Jun Sun <jsun@mvista.com>
To: Tibor Polgar <tpolgar@freehandsystems.com>
Cc: Mark Salter <msalter@redhat.com>,
	krishnakumar@naturesoft.net, linux-mips@linux-mips.org,
	jsun@mvista.com
Subject: Re: Ramdisk image on flash.
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 12:37:32 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030220123732.F7466@mvista.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3E55342D.6E1D36FF@freehandsystems.com>; from tpolgar@freehandsystems.com on Thu, Feb 20, 2003 at 12:01:49PM -0800

On Thu, Feb 20, 2003 at 12:01:49PM -0800, Tibor Polgar wrote:
> > >> On Wed, 2003-02-19 at 22:05, Krishnakumar. R wrote:
> > >> > Hi,
> > >> >
> > >> > Is there any way that I can keep
> > >> > a ramdisk image (containing the root filesystem)
> > >> > in a flash device and boot to it.
> > >>
> > >> Yes, and other architectures have support for passing arguments to the
> > >> kernel that tell it where the ramdisk is. I don't know that we've done
> > >> that for MIPS, yet.  It wouldn't be too hard to do and maybe someone on
> > >> this list is already working on it (I think someone actually is working
> > >> on it and was preparing a patch for Ralf).
> > 
> > > For having separate initrd and kernel load we also need an aware bootloader
> > > that knows where to find the ramdisk.   RedBoot, from what i read, seems to be
> > > i386 specific.
> > 
> > Not at all. RedBoot can be used to pass a command line to MIPS kernels. It
> > would be simple to add the passing of a ramdisk address. It already supports
> > ramdisks from ARM and SH kernels.
> 
> The original poster wanted a setup where the initrd was NOT part of the
> kernel, which begs the question of how/where it would be put into flash so
> something could load/uncompress it.   I'd love to have a way to decouple the
> two so i wouldn't have to recompile the kernel when i change the root image,
> but still not waste any space in flash.   I guess they could be written one
> after the other and the loader is just given a "load map" of where each one
> resides.   Would this satisfy Krishnakumar's requirements?
>

For the sanity of kernel, I also favor leaving ramfs root outside kernel.
It would be nice if we can do the following :

1) create kernel ELF as normal
2) outside the kernel, create .o file that is ramfs root
3) outside the kernel, we use a separate tool/program that combines
   1) and 2) into a new ELF file.  The entry point of the new ELF file
   would append ramfs parameters (such as "initrd=xxxx") to the args
   and then jump to kernel_entry.

There are some difficulties, but looks very possible.

Jun

  parent reply	other threads:[~2003-02-20 20:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-02-20  6:05 Ramdisk image on flash Krishnakumar. R
2003-02-20 18:27 ` Pete Popov
2003-02-20 19:30   ` Tibor Polgar
2003-02-20 19:41     ` Mark Salter
2003-02-20 20:01       ` Tibor Polgar
2003-02-20 20:16         ` Mark Salter
2003-02-20 20:35         ` Dan Malek
2003-02-20 20:44           ` Jun Sun
2003-02-20 20:57             ` Pete Popov
2003-02-20 21:24               ` Dan Malek
2003-02-20 20:37         ` Jun Sun [this message]
2003-02-20 21:08           ` Guido Guenther
2003-02-20 21:12         ` Alan Cox
2003-02-20 19:41     ` Pete Popov
2003-02-20 19:42     ` Brian Murphy
2003-02-20 20:59   ` Guido Guenther
2003-02-20 21:27     ` Dan Malek
2003-02-21  2:24 ` Atsushi Nemoto
2003-02-21 20:25   ` fixup_bigphys_addr and DBAu1500 dev board Jeff Baitis
2003-02-21 20:40     ` Dan Malek
2003-02-21 22:10       ` Pete Popov
2003-02-22  3:50       ` Jeff Baitis
2003-02-23  9:19         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2003-02-24 17:46         ` Pete Popov
2003-02-25 21:54           ` Jeff Baitis
2003-02-25 22:05             ` Pete Popov

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