From: Ralf Baechle <ralf@linux-mips.org>
To: Stanislaw Skowronek <sskowron@ET.PUT.Poznan.PL>
Cc: linux-mips@linux-mips.org
Subject: Re: 32-bit ABI
Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 09:17:52 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040424071751.GA561@linux-mips.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.10.10404240825540.10762-100000@helios.et.put.poznan.pl>
On Sat, Apr 24, 2004 at 08:28:09AM +0200, Stanislaw Skowronek wrote:
> why do we attempt to compile the kernel with 32-bit GAS abi and 64-bit GCC
> abi? Is it because the module loader is broken and supports only 32-bit
> ELFs? Then what about machines which load their kernels at weird 64-bit
> addresses, like 0xa800000020004000 (Octane)?
The whole thing was born as a dirty hack back in '99 or so to avoid the
totally broken and imcomplete implementation of 64-bit MIPS ELF in binutils.
By using these options we run the kernel in CKSEG0 which means 32-bit ELF
will suffice. A nice side effect if a reduction of kernel size - this in
the end made the code model which was born as a hack the way of choice.
So there is no relation at all to modules. You btw. can load 64-bit ELF
modules into a kernel which was built using above trick as 32-bit ELF.
That's necessary because modules are currently allocated through vmalloc
which allocates space in XKSEG.
A code model which I'm considering as alternative is -G optimization but
that will require a good bit of work; we would have to free up $28 which
right now we're already using for the current pointer. A bunch of
declaration would simply need to be fixed. Module loaders would need
support for R_MIPS_GPREL16 and we'd need a solution for the problem of
the kernel being too large, therefore overflowing the small data section.
Th latter is probably going to require binutils hacking, so non-trivial.
> I have changed it to 64-bit abi in my Octane kernel, because it won't even
> compile otherwise. I've got gcc 3.3.2, gas 2.14.
Octane has no memory at all in CKSEG0?
> Paranoid: one who is truly in touch with reality.
The fact that you're paranoid doesn't meant they're not out to get you.
Ralf
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-04-24 7:18 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-04-23 8:02 MC Parity Error Florian Lohoff
2004-04-23 13:11 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2004-04-23 16:45 ` Ralf Baechle
2004-04-23 17:11 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2004-04-23 20:43 ` Dominic Sweetman
2004-04-23 21:06 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2004-04-24 6:28 ` 32-bit ABI Stanislaw Skowronek
2004-04-24 7:09 ` Thiemo Seufer
2004-04-24 7:17 ` Ralf Baechle [this message]
2004-04-24 7:31 ` Stanislaw Skowronek
2004-04-24 7:38 ` Ralf Baechle
2004-04-24 7:46 ` Stanislaw Skowronek
2004-04-24 7:51 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2004-04-24 7:55 ` Ralf Baechle
2004-04-24 8:07 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2004-04-24 8:14 ` Stanislaw Skowronek
2004-04-24 8:18 ` Ralf Baechle
2004-04-24 8:23 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2004-04-24 8:26 ` Ralf Baechle
2004-04-24 8:49 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2004-04-24 8:14 ` Ralf Baechle
2004-04-24 8:17 ` Stanislaw Skowronek
2004-04-24 8:26 ` Thiemo Seufer
2004-04-24 7:37 ` Thiemo Seufer
2004-04-24 7:18 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2004-04-24 7:34 ` Stanislaw Skowronek
2004-04-24 7:44 ` Ralf Baechle
2004-04-24 7:47 ` Stanislaw Skowronek
2004-04-24 7:48 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
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