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From: Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@linaro.org>
To: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/7] clocksource: Rename CLOCKSOURCE_OF_DECLARE
Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 12:55:09 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170529105509.GC2192@mai> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAK8P3a1Kv_RhKL43ie6co_N5pDXvRHd7Uq8g70qt80WkxuhzLw@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 11:57:25AM +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 10:48 AM, Daniel Lezcano
> <daniel.lezcano@linaro.org> wrote:
> > On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 10:41:52AM +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> >> On Sat, May 27, 2017 at 11:58 AM, Daniel Lezcano
> >> <daniel.lezcano@linaro.org> wrote:
> >> > The CLOCKSOUCE_OF_DECLARE macro is used widely for the timers to declare the
> >> > clocksource at early stage. However, this macro is also used to initialize
> >> > the clockevent if any, or the clockevent only.
> >> >
> >> > It was originally suggested to declare another macro to initialize a
> >> > clockevent, so in order to separate the two entities even they belong to the
> >> > same IP. This was not accepted because of the impact on the DT where splitting
> >> > a clocksource/clockevent definition does not make sense as it is a Linux
> >> > concept not a hardware description.
> >> >
> >> > On the other side, the clocksource has not interrupt declared while the
> >> > clockevent has, so it is easy from the driver to know if the description is
> >> > for a clockevent or a clocksource, IOW it could be implemented at the driver
> >> > level.
> >> >
> >> > So instead of dealing with a named clocksource macro, let's use a more generic
> >> > one: TIMER_OF_DECLARE.
> >> >
> >> > The patch has not functional changes.
> >> >
> >> > Signed-off-by: Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@linaro.org>
> >>
> >> Could you either leave the old name as an alias for one release, or introduce
> >> the new name as an alias now for 4.13?
> >>
> >> I think that that would make it easier to merge new drivers. Otherwise this
> >> looks good to me,
> >
> >
> > New drivers should go through my tree, so I can catch them with the old macro
> > name and do the change.
> 
> Sure, they should, and it's quite likely that you won't even need the fallback,
> I've just seen too many cases where a similar assumption turned out wrong,
> that I'd just pick the safer option just in case whenever I do an API change.
> 
> Things that could go wrong include:
> 
> - A platform maintainer wants to add a new platform and has a for-next
>   branch that gets merged into linux-next, with parts of it going through
>   different maintainers, and now they have to choose between a branch
>   that doesn't build without the timer branch, or one that break for-next
>   unless Stephen applies a fixup
> 
> - Some architecture maintainer didn't get the memo and adds an instance of
>   CLOCKSOUCE_OF_DECLARE in architecture specific code without asking
>   having the patch reviewed first
> 
> - A platform has a branch with complex cross-tree dependencies and
>   it need to get merged in an unconventional way.
> 
> - You make a mistake and accidentally merge one driver for an unusual
>   architecture that escapes your test matrix.
> 
> While those all are unlikely to happen in a particular merge window, they do
> happen occasionally and tend to cause a lot of pain.

Hmm, that sounds scary :)

There is no guarantee, when removing the alias, none of the above happens,
right?

If the timer branch is in linux-next, that could be caugth before any of the
above happens, no?

I'm not against adding an alias, just checking out if it is worth to.

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  reply	other threads:[~2017-05-29 10:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <1495879129-28109-1-git-send-email-daniel.lezcano@linaro.org>
2017-05-27  9:58 ` [PATCH 2/7] clocksource: Rename CLOCKSOURCE_OF_DECLARE Daniel Lezcano
2017-05-27  9:58   ` Daniel Lezcano
2017-05-28 13:48   ` Linus Walleij
2017-05-28 14:20     ` Daniel Lezcano
2017-05-29  7:39   ` Heiko Stübner
2017-05-29  8:00   ` Neil Armstrong
2017-05-29  8:41   ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-05-29  8:48     ` Daniel Lezcano
2017-05-29  9:57       ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-05-29 10:55         ` Daniel Lezcano [this message]
2017-05-29 11:21           ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-05-29 13:25   ` Matthias Brugger
2017-05-30 16:36   ` Vineet Gupta
2017-05-30 16:36     ` Vineet Gupta
2017-05-31  7:11   ` Patrice CHOTARD
2017-05-31  8:19   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2017-05-27  9:58 ` [PATCH 3/7] clocksource: Rename clocksource_probe Daniel Lezcano
2017-05-27  9:58   ` Daniel Lezcano
2017-05-28 13:49   ` Linus Walleij
2017-05-29  4:34   ` Viresh Kumar
2017-05-29  7:37   ` Heiko Stübner
2017-05-31 10:29   ` James Hartley
2017-05-31 10:29     ` James Hartley
2017-05-27  9:58 ` [PATCH 6/7] clocksource: Rename CLKSRC_OF to TIMER_OF Daniel Lezcano
2017-05-27  9:58   ` Daniel Lezcano
2017-05-28  3:00   ` Shawn Guo
2017-05-28  3:00     ` Shawn Guo
2017-05-28  9:18     ` Daniel Lezcano
2017-05-28  9:18       ` Daniel Lezcano
2017-05-28 13:52   ` Linus Walleij
2017-05-28 13:52     ` Linus Walleij
2017-05-31  8:24   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2017-05-31  8:24     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski

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