From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list linux-mips); Thu, 02 Nov 2017 17:56:38 +0100 (CET) Received: from vps0.lunn.ch ([185.16.172.187]:47834 "EHLO vps0.lunn.ch" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by eddie.linux-mips.org with ESMTP id S23991960AbdKBQ4bqOL6B (ORCPT ); Thu, 2 Nov 2017 17:56:31 +0100 Received: from andrew by vps0.lunn.ch with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eAImj-0000zN-SC; Thu, 02 Nov 2017 17:56:05 +0100 Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2017 17:56:05 +0100 From: Andrew Lunn To: David Daney Cc: David Daney , linux-mips@linux-mips.org, ralf@linux-mips.org, James Hogan , netdev@vger.kernel.org, "David S. Miller" , Rob Herring , Mark Rutland , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, "Steven J. Hill" , devicetree@vger.kernel.org, Carlos Munoz Subject: Re: [PATCH 6/7] netdev: octeon-ethernet: Add Cavium Octeon III support. Message-ID: <20171102165605.GJ24320@lunn.ch> References: <20171102003606.19913-1-david.daney@cavium.com> <20171102003606.19913-7-david.daney@cavium.com> <20171102124339.GF4772@lunn.ch> <521d6b21-b7f0-66e0-4b49-cf95d83452d1@caviumnetworks.com> <20171102161016.GH24320@lunn.ch> <0f39046d-dc99-5c05-d918-10952cd20e1b@caviumnetworks.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <0f39046d-dc99-5c05-d918-10952cd20e1b@caviumnetworks.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) Return-Path: X-Envelope-To: <"|/home/ecartis/ecartis -s linux-mips"> (uid 0) X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-mips@linux-mips.org Original-Recipient: rfc822;linux-mips@linux-mips.org X-archive-position: 60691 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: linux-mips-bounce@linux-mips.org Errors-to: linux-mips-bounce@linux-mips.org X-original-sender: andrew@lunn.ch Precedence: bulk List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: linux-mips X-List-ID: linux-mips List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: linux-mips > OK, now I think I understand. Yes, the MAC can be hardwired to a switch. > In fact, there are system designs that do exactly that. > > We try to handle this case by not having a "phy-handle" property in the > device tree. The link to the remote device (switch IC in this case) is > brought up on ndo_open() O.K, so you totally ignore the Linux way of doing this and hack together your own proprietary solution. > There may be opportunities to improve how this works in the future, but the > current code is serviceable. It might be serviceable, but it will never get into mainline. For mainline, you need to use DSA. http://elixir.free-electrons.com/linux/v4.9.60/source/Documentation/networking/dsa/dsa.txt Getting back to my original point, having these platform devices can cause issues for DSA. Freescale FMAN has a similar architecture, and it took a while to restructure it to make DSA work. https://www.spinics.net/lists/netdev/msg459394.html Andrew