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From: Jun Sun <jsun@mvista.com>
To: Pete Popov <ppopov@mvista.com>
Cc: Ralf Baechle <ralf@oss.sgi.com>, linux-mips@oss.sgi.com
Subject: Re: CONFIG_MIPS_UNCACHED
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 17:37:31 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3A6F835B.72A293A5@mvista.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 3A6F7CB8.322668CF@mvista.com

Pete Popov wrote:
> 
> Ralf Baechle wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 12:10:32PM -0800, Jun Sun wrote:
> >
> > > It is really surprising to know this.  It sounds like a CPU bug to me.  Can
> > > some MIPS "gods" clarify if such a behaviour is a bug or allowed?
> > >
> > > BTW, the CPU in EV96100 is QED RM7000, I believe.
> >
> > If you want to be strictly correct you have to execute the code that
> > disables caching of KSEG0 in uncached space like KSEG1, then flush the
> > caches before you can resume execution in KSEG0.  Otherwise you might
> > end up with dirty d-caches which when flushed will overwrite more
> > uptodate data in memory.  The window is very small but yet exists if
> > things are just right.
> 
> The EV96100 running Galileo's pmon exhibits exactly this symptom.  Pmon
> apparently sets up kseg0 to cache coherency 3;  but eventhough the
> kernel also sets it to 3, if I don't flush the caches first I end up
> with overwritten data.  A different version of pmon that I have sets
> kseg0 to 1 (writethrough). Changing that to 3 isn't a problem -- or at
> least it doesn't seem to cause any problems.
> 

I don't think it is the same problem.

Here is the simplified view of the process, if I understand Pete correctly:

1. pmon sets kseg0 to 3 (cache enabled)
2. kernel starts in KSEG0 
3. kernel sets kseg0 to 3 again (essentially keeps the same config value)
4. kernel flushes cache
  ===> Q: data corruption or not?

I think the data should be consistent.  Otherwise it looks like a CPU bug to
me.

What ralf described is something like the following:

1. pmon sets kseg0 to 3 (KSEG0 cache enabled)
2. kernel starts in KSEG0 
3. kernel sets kseg0 to 2 (disable kseg0 cache)
4. kernel flushes cache
  ===> Q: data corruption or not?  YES, data can be corrupted!

Jun

  reply	other threads:[~2001-01-25  1:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-01-23 23:26 CONFIG_MIPS_UNCACHED Quinn Jensen
2001-01-23 23:53 ` CONFIG_MIPS_UNCACHED Pete Popov
2001-01-24 20:10   ` CONFIG_MIPS_UNCACHED Jun Sun
2001-01-25  0:31     ` CONFIG_MIPS_UNCACHED Ralf Baechle
2001-01-25  1:09       ` CONFIG_MIPS_UNCACHED Pete Popov
2001-01-25  1:37         ` Jun Sun [this message]
2001-01-26 10:02       ` CONFIG_MIPS_UNCACHED Kevin D. Kissell
2001-01-26 10:02         ` CONFIG_MIPS_UNCACHED Kevin D. Kissell
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-06-23 16:05 CONFIG_MIPS_UNCACHED Jun Sun
2001-06-23 17:17 ` CONFIG_MIPS_UNCACHED Kevin D. Kissell
2001-06-23 17:17   ` CONFIG_MIPS_UNCACHED Kevin D. Kissell
2001-06-23 17:49   ` CONFIG_MIPS_UNCACHED Jun Sun
2001-06-23 20:15     ` CONFIG_MIPS_UNCACHED Kevin D. Kissell
2001-06-23 20:15       ` CONFIG_MIPS_UNCACHED Kevin D. Kissell
2001-06-25  4:42       ` CONFIG_MIPS_UNCACHED Jun Sun
2001-06-25  6:51         ` CONFIG_MIPS_UNCACHED Kevin D. Kissell
2001-06-25  6:51           ` CONFIG_MIPS_UNCACHED Kevin D. Kissell
2001-06-25 16:38           ` CONFIG_MIPS_UNCACHED Jun Sun
2001-06-25 17:35           ` CONFIG_MIPS_UNCACHED Justin Carlson
2001-06-26  8:50             ` CONFIG_MIPS_UNCACHED Kevin D. Kissell
2001-06-26  8:50               ` CONFIG_MIPS_UNCACHED Kevin D. Kissell
2001-06-26 13:11               ` CONFIG_MIPS_UNCACHED Maciej W. Rozycki
2001-06-25 13:22     ` CONFIG_MIPS_UNCACHED Maciej W. Rozycki

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