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From: Jun Sun <jsun@mvista.com>
To: Joe deBlaquiere <jadb@redhat.com>
Cc: Florian Lohoff <flo@rfc822.org>,
	ralf@oss.sgi.com, Pete Popov <ppopov@mvista.com>,
	George Gensure <werkt@csh.rit.edu>,
	linux-mips@oss.sgi.com
Subject: Re: MIPS_ATOMIC_SET again (Re: newest kernel
Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 10:10:59 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3B0BEF23.6538F217@mvista.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 3B0B5AC6.6060208@redhat.com

Joe deBlaquiere wrote:
> 
> I would vote for option #4 - make sure the ll/sc emulation stuff works
> and use ll/sc in glibc instead of sysmips. Beyond the pthreads mutex
> stuff in glibc I have yet to come across usage of sysmips. Of course you
> still need sys_sysmips to function correctly (in case somebody did a
> silly thing like call sysmips directly just for the fun of it), so I
> like like Florian's solution.

> Adding a parameter is a silly thing to do,
> and we don't need to be adding functionality to sys_sysmips through
> NEW_MO_BETTER_AS_SEEN_ON_TV_ATOMIC_SET or what have you...
> 

I disagree with the ll/sc emulation approach.

. ll/sc is difficult to emulate  (as anybody who has tried will know)

. ll/sc takes a much bigger performance hit.   It takes at least two syscalls
to complete a sequence of ll/sc instructions.  In addition, since each system
call takes so much time, it increases the likelihood for the failure of sc
instruction, which again decreases the performance.

. Although not a strange argument, but sysmips() implementation in pthread
provides MIPS I comptability which can be important for, for example, a
desktop distribution.


> Adding a parameter is a silly thing to do,
> and we don't need to be adding functionality to sys_sysmips through
> NEW_MO_BETTER_AS_SEEN_ON_TV_ATOMIC_SET or what have you...
> 

Please forgive my silliness again - can you illustrate why this idea sound so
silly to you?  


Jun

> Jun Sun wrote:
> 
> > Florian Lohoff wrote:
> >
> >> On Mon, May 21, 2001 at 04:23:52PM -0700, Jun Sun wrote:
> >>
> >>> The patch seems to be just a fast implementation of sysmips().  Why would it
> >>> solve an otherwise illegal instruction problem?
> >>>
> >>> George, what was exactly the error and the faulty instruction?
> >>
> >> Wrong - Its not only a "fast" path sysmips. It solves the illegal instruction
> >> case as it carefully doesnt touch registers it should not touch.
> >>
> >> The sysmips illegal instruction stuff came from the early exit
> >> needed to skip the -EXXXX case in the scall32.S which did not
> >> restore the modified registers. This needed fixing and there was
> >> no clean way of doing this in C thus i wrote an asm sysmips/MIPS_ATOMIC_SET
> >> and called it "fast_sysmips" which itself would go into the old
> >> sysmips function when not MIPS_ATOMIC_SET.
> >>
> >
> >
> > I see.
> >
> > I took a look of MIPS ABI in system V and found that the spec only specifies
> > this extended call in C prototype:
> >
> > int _test_and_set(int *p, int v);
> >
> > It seems perfectly legal for us to add one more argument to store the return
> > value while still have the function returns error.  Of course, doing that will
> > break binary compatibility.
> >
> > Otherwise, I think Flo's patch is the best fix to satisfy the spec and binary
> > compatibility although it is a little clunky.
> >
> > A third possibility is the have a MIPS_NEW_ATOMIC_SET that take three
> > arguments.  If that approach is taken, I would take out the inline assembly
> > that jumps to o32_ret_from_sys_call and documents MIPS_ATOMIC_SET as
> > deprecated and valnerable.
> >
> > My preference, in the decreasing order, is 3), 2) and 1).
> >
> > Ralf, what do you think?  We cannot let the bug sit around in the CVS tree for
> > long.  Have to have some fix.
> >
> > Jun
> 
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2001-05-23 17:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-05-21 22:45 newest kernel George Gensure
2001-05-21 23:10 ` Pete Popov
2001-05-21 23:23   ` Jun Sun
2001-05-21 23:25     ` Pete Popov
2001-05-22 12:33     ` Florian Lohoff
2001-05-22 17:04       ` George Gensure
2001-05-22 17:04         ` George Gensure
2001-05-22 22:46       ` MIPS_ATOMIC_SET again (Re: " Jun Sun
2001-05-23  6:37         ` Joe deBlaquiere
2001-05-23 13:34           ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2001-05-23 17:48             ` Joe deBlaquiere
2001-05-23 18:20               ` Kevin D. Kissell
2001-05-23 18:20                 ` Kevin D. Kissell
2001-05-23 19:37                 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2001-05-23 23:49                   ` Kevin D. Kissell
2001-05-23 23:49                     ` Kevin D. Kissell
2001-05-24  4:11                     ` Joe deBlaquiere
2001-05-24 10:56                       ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2001-05-24 10:44                     ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2001-05-24 15:15                       ` Kevin D. Kissell
2001-05-24 15:15                         ` Kevin D. Kissell
2001-05-24 16:21                         ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2001-05-24 22:46                           ` Joe deBlaquiere
2001-05-25 17:19                             ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2001-05-25 22:02                             ` Surprise! (Re: " Jun Sun
2001-05-25 23:56                               ` Jun Sun
2001-05-28 15:34                               ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2001-05-29 22:32                                 ` Jun Sun
2001-05-30  6:46                                   ` Kevin D. Kissell
2001-05-30  6:46                                     ` Kevin D. Kissell
2001-05-30 13:42                                   ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2001-05-30 17:39                                     ` Jun Sun
2001-05-31  8:37                                       ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2001-05-31 11:54                                 ` Ralf Baechle
2001-05-31 19:16                                   ` Jun Sun
2001-05-23 18:41               ` Jun Sun
2001-05-23 18:54                 ` Florian Lohoff
2001-05-23 18:55                   ` Florian Lohoff
2001-05-23 20:04                     ` Joe deBlaquiere
2001-05-24  9:32                       ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2001-05-26 13:14                         ` Florian Lohoff
2001-05-28 15:37                           ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2001-05-26 13:15                       ` Florian Lohoff
2001-05-28 15:43                         ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2001-05-28 16:25                           ` Kevin D. Kissell
2001-05-28 16:25                             ` Kevin D. Kissell
2001-05-28 17:10                             ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2001-05-29  6:57                               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2001-05-29 10:45                                 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2001-05-29 13:02                               ` Joe deBlaquiere
2001-05-29 15:45                                 ` Mike McDonald
2001-05-30  1:32                                   ` Mike McDonald
2001-05-30  7:09                                   ` Kevin D. Kissell
2001-05-30  7:09                                     ` Kevin D. Kissell
2001-05-30 14:48                                   ` J. Scott Kasten
2001-05-30 14:48                                     ` J. Scott Kasten
2001-05-29 22:37                               ` Jun Sun
2001-05-30 12:01                                 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2001-05-30 17:54                                   ` Jun Sun
2001-05-31  7:39                                     ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2001-05-23 19:44                   ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2001-05-24  4:25                     ` Keith M Wesolowski
2001-05-23 21:06                   ` Jun Sun
2001-05-23 19:29               ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2001-05-23 17:10           ` Jun Sun [this message]
2001-05-23 13:18         ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2001-05-23 17:38           ` Jun Sun
2001-05-23 18:47             ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2001-05-23 20:58               ` Jun Sun
2001-05-23 13:45         ` wrt irc joshua
2001-05-23 15:19           ` porting from headers Keith M Wesolowski
2001-05-23 15:55           ` wrt irc nick
2001-05-23 15:57             ` Keith M Wesolowski
2001-05-23 16:03               ` nick

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