From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from oss.sgi.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by oss.sgi.com (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5J9GRnC012941 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 2002 02:16:27 -0700 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by oss.sgi.com (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id g5J9GRgN012940 for linux-mips-outgoing; Wed, 19 Jun 2002 02:16:27 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: oss.sgi.com: majordomo set sender to owner-linux-mips@oss.sgi.com using -f Received: from mx2.mips.com (ftp.mips.com [206.31.31.227]) by oss.sgi.com (8.12.3/8.12.3) with SMTP id g5J9GLnC012937 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 2002 02:16:21 -0700 Received: from newman.mips.com (ns-dmz [206.31.31.225]) by mx2.mips.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) with ESMTP id CAA19851; Wed, 19 Jun 2002 02:15:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from copfs01.mips.com (copfs01 [192.168.205.101]) by newman.mips.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) with ESMTP id CAA26087; Wed, 19 Jun 2002 02:15:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mips.com (copsun17 [192.168.205.27]) by copfs01.mips.com (8.11.4/8.9.0) with ESMTP id g5J9FHb17914; Wed, 19 Jun 2002 11:15:18 +0200 (MEST) Message-ID: <3D104BA4.BEEAAB6C@mips.com> Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 11:15:16 +0200 From: Carsten Langgaard X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.8 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Christensen CC: linux-mips@oss.sgi.com, license-discuss@opensource.org, kevink@mips.com Subject: Re: Linux and the Sony Playstation 2 References: <007601c216d0$6f7f0840$10eca8c0@grendel> <00e001c216f6$86594b40$0b01a8c0@w2k30g> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux-mips@oss.sgi.com Precedence: bulk The DVDs you get with the linux kit, contain all necessary hardware documentation. /Carsten David Christensen wrote: > Kevin: > > Kevin D. Kissell wrote on linux-mips@oss.sgi.com: > > The Sony PS2 Linux kit has been shipping for nearly... > > If the PS2 is an open source platform, I would like to know that. > However, I do not see Sony on the OSI approved license list: > > http://www.opensource.org/licenses/index.php > > So, let me get out my soap box... > > When people say "Open Source", the first thing that comes to mind is > software. But, this is only one half of the equation. The hardware > must also be "open", or the concept doesn't work. First, because > attempting to write systems software without complete and accurate > hardware documentation is an exercise in reverse engineering. The > community can better spend its time on documented hardware. Second, and > more importantly, because any intellectual property (IP) encumbrance > will make the results pointless in the marketplace. > > Closed hardware breaks the community development model. Vendors who > provide a Linux distribution but keep their hardware proprietary cannot > honestly claim "Open Source". Vendors who fully disclose and freely > license both their hardware and software have embraced "Open Source". > As consumers, we vote with our dollars. As engineers, we further one > cause or the other by our education, employment, and personal project > choices. > > David Christensen > dpchrist@holgerdanske.com -- _ _ ____ ___ Carsten Langgaard Mailto:carstenl@mips.com |\ /|||___)(___ MIPS Denmark Direct: +45 4486 5527 | \/ ||| ____) Lautrupvang 4B Switch: +45 4486 5555 TECHNOLOGIES 2750 Ballerup Fax...: +45 4486 5556 Denmark http://www.mips.com