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From: Leonid Yegoshin <Leonid.Yegoshin@imgtec.com>
To: James Hogan <james.hogan@imgtec.com>
Cc: "linux-mips@linux-mips.org" <linux-mips@linux-mips.org>,
	"wangr@lemote.com" <wangr@lemote.com>,
	"peterz@infradead.org" <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Qais Yousef <Qais.Yousef@imgtec.com>,
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	"ralf@linux-mips.org" <ralf@linux-mips.org>,
	"davidlohr@hp.com" <davidlohr@hp.com>,
	"chenhc@lemote.com" <chenhc@lemote.com>,
	"manuel.lauss@gmail.com" <manuel.lauss@gmail.com>,
	"mingo@kernel.org" <mingo@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] MIPS: MSA: misaligned support
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2015 16:23:44 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <550B5A80.2060907@imgtec.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <550A9C0F.6060505@imgtec.com>

On 03/19/2015 02:51 AM, James Hogan wrote:
> On 18/03/15 23:25, Leonid Yegoshin wrote:
>> On 03/18/2015 03:12 PM, James Hogan wrote:
>>> Hi Leonid,
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 12:46:51PM -0700, Leonid Yegoshin wrote:
>>>
>>>> thread_msa_context_live() == check of TIF_MSA_CTX_LIVE == existence of
>>>> MSA context for thread.
>>>> It differs from MSA is owned by thread, it just says that thread has
>>>> already initialized MSA.
>>>>
>>>> Unfortunate choice of function name, I believe.
>>> Right (I mis-read when its cleared when i grepped). Still, that would
>>> make it even harder to hit since lose_fpu wouldn't clear it, and you
>>> already would've taken an MSA disabled exception first.
>> No, lose_fpu disables MSA now, saves MSA context and switches off
>> TIF_USEDMSA. See 33c771ba5c5d067f85a5a6c4b11047219b5b8f4e, "MIPS:
>> save/disable MSA in lose_fpu".
>>
>> However, a process still has MSA context initialized and it is indicated
>> by TIF_MSA_CTX_LIVE.
>> It should have it before it can get any AdE exception on MSA instruction.
> Yes, exactly.
>
>>> Anyway, my point was that there's nothing invalid about an unaligned
>>> load being the first MSA instruction. You might use it to load the
>>> initial vector state.
>> No, it is invalid. If MSA is disabled it should trigger "MSA Disabled"
>> exception.
> It's valid for the user to start their program with a ld.b.
> As you say, it'll raise an MSA disabled exception first though. The
> handler will own MSA, and set TIF_MSA_CTX_LIVE, which makes the check
> pointless?

"Unfortunately, some HW versions had AdE first and it may be logical 
from some HW point (if access is done before instruction is completely 
decoded). But that is wrong."

>
> I suppose an AdE from a normal unaligned load could still race with
> another thread modifying the instruction to an MSA ld.b, but even if it
> did, I don't think it would do any harm?
>
>> Unfortunately, some HW versions had AdE first and it may be logical from
>> some HW point (if access is done before instruction is completely
>> decoded). But that is wrong.
> Yes, MSA Disabled would clearly come under "Instruction Validity
> Exceptions", which is very sensibly higher priority than "Address error
> - Data access".
>
> Anyway, at the very least it needs a comment to justify what it is
> trying to catch and what harm it is trying to avoid, since it isn't
> obvious, and tbh seems pointless.
>
> Cheers
> James
>

  reply	other threads:[~2015-03-19 23:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-03-18  1:16 [PATCH] MIPS: MSA: misaligned support Leonid Yegoshin
2015-03-18  1:16 ` Leonid Yegoshin
2015-03-18 11:27 ` James Hogan
2015-03-18 11:27   ` James Hogan
2015-03-18 19:46   ` Leonid Yegoshin
2015-03-18 22:12     ` James Hogan
2015-03-18 23:25       ` Leonid Yegoshin
2015-03-19  9:51         ` James Hogan
2015-03-19 23:23           ` Leonid Yegoshin [this message]
2015-03-18 11:41 ` James Hogan
2015-03-18 11:41   ` James Hogan

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