From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (cthulhu.engr.sgi.com [192.26.80.2]) by neteng.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id RAA17734; Tue, 17 Jun 1997 17:16:38 -0700 Return-Path: Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id RAA25979 for linux-list; Tue, 17 Jun 1997 17:16:25 -0700 Received: from morgaine.engr.sgi.com (morgaine.engr.sgi.com [130.62.16.64]) by cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id RAA25975 for ; Tue, 17 Jun 1997 17:16:23 -0700 Received: (from offer@localhost) by morgaine.engr.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/960327.SGI.AUTOCF) id RAA15622 for linux; Tue, 17 Jun 1997 17:15:53 -0700 From: offer@sgi.com (richard offer) Message-Id: <9706171715.ZM15632@sgi.com> Date: Tue, 17 Jun 1997 17:15:52 -0700 In-Reply-To: jwiede@blammo (John Wiederhirn) "Re: Good news: no more begging for HW" (Jun 17, 5:00pm) References: <199706171710.MAA15321@athena.nuclecu.unam.mx> <9706171053.ZM9344@sgi.com> <9706171700.ZM11546@blammo.engr.sgi.com> X-Signature: Automatically generated by Richards Own Mail Signer (roms) X-Home-Page: http://reality.sgi.com/offer X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.3 08feb96 MediaMail) To: linux@morgaine.engr.sgi.com Subject: Re: Good news: no more begging for HW Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com Precedence: bulk * $ from jwiede@blammo at "17-Jun: 5:00pm" | sed "1,$s/^/* /" * * * I realize this comes off as fairly negative, but I'm just trying to explain the * issues involved once gfx gets added to the mix. There would need to be a * buy-in at a very high level of SGI mgmt. before we could start making the * hardware details of our graphics subsystems available (at least the more modern * ones, such as O2, Impact, etc.). I don't think this is being negitive, it might not be what we want to hear, but at least someone who knows about our underlying hardware is making comments. Probably the first thing to do would be to get the go ahead for a proof of concept only (under NDA) probably using an old indy. If this proves impossible from either the technical or political pov's then we need to re-think. I personaly don't think we have much chance unless we go to NDA and even then its going to be really hard to get buy-in. * * * -- * John Wiederhirn (DSD, Graphics Kernel MTS) jwiede@engr.sgi.com * "Smithers, unleash the human insight and creativity." * richard. ________________________________________________________________________ Dogbert: "From now on I will not try to reason with the idiots I encounter. I will dismiss them by waving my paw and saying 'BAH'". Dilbert: "Just because someone thinks differently from you doesn't mean he's an idiot, Dogbert". Dogbert: [waves paw], "BAH". Dilbert: 27-July-96.