From: "Théo Lebrun" <theo.lebrun@bootlin.com>
To: "Rob Herring" <robh@kernel.org>
Cc: "Vladimir Kondratiev" <vladimir.kondratiev@mobileye.com>,
"Grégory Clement" <gregory.clement@bootlin.com>,
"Krzysztof Kozlowski" <krzk+dt@kernel.org>,
"Conor Dooley" <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
"Michael Turquette" <mturquette@baylibre.com>,
"Stephen Boyd" <sboyd@kernel.org>,
"Thomas Bogendoerfer" <tsbogend@alpha.franken.de>,
linux-mips@vger.kernel.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-clk@vger.kernel.org,
"Thomas Petazzoni" <thomas.petazzoni@bootlin.com>,
"Tawfik Bayouk" <tawfik.bayouk@mobileye.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 01/13] dt-bindings: soc: mobileye: set `#clock-cells = <1>` for all compatibles
Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2024 17:46:10 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <D5DJOUV9NPY4.22MIOBKLAYGA3@bootlin.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20241104153727.GA192461-robh@kernel.org>
On Mon Nov 4, 2024 at 4:37 PM CET, Rob Herring wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 31, 2024 at 04:52:51PM +0100, Théo Lebrun wrote:
> > Some compatibles expose a single clock. For those, we used to let them
> > using `#clock-cells = <0>` (ie <&olb> reference rather than <&olb 0>).
> >
> > Switch away from that: enforce a cell for all compatibles. This is more
> > straight forward, and avoids devicetree changes whenever a compatible
> > goes from exposing a single clock to multiple ones.
>
> Your reasoning is flawed. Changing #clock-cells is an ABI break. So you
> should only be changing this if it was just wrong. And if it's not wrong
> in some cases, you shouldn't be changing those. The h/w either has 1
> clock or multiple and #clocks-cells should match.
I see your reasoning, and I agree that changing #clock-cells is an ABI
break. However, there are two things to take into account:
- We do not (yet?) have an omniscient view of the hardware. We do not
know what every single register in those memory regions do.
Some clocks might be lurking in the shadows, especially as we don't
support many HW capabilities yet.
- The earlier the better. If we discover later down the road that,
indeed, some more clocks were hiding, we'll have to do an ABI break.
At that point, some people might actually be using the platform.
Seeing what we currently have supported upstream versus the amount
of HW blocks available in the SoC, I cannot imagine anyone using the
platform with an upstream kernel.
So the choice is:
- potential ABI break in the future, once people use the platform, or,
- guaranteed ABI break now, when no one is using it.
I pick option two! Do you agree with the thought process?
Thanks Rob,
--
Théo Lebrun, Bootlin
Embedded Linux and Kernel engineering
https://bootlin.com
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-11-04 16:46 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-10-31 15:52 [PATCH 00/13] Usable clocks on Mobileye EyeQ5 & EyeQ6H Théo Lebrun
2024-10-31 15:52 ` [PATCH 01/13] dt-bindings: soc: mobileye: set `#clock-cells = <1>` for all compatibles Théo Lebrun
2024-11-04 15:37 ` Rob Herring
2024-11-04 16:46 ` Théo Lebrun [this message]
2024-11-05 13:33 ` Rob Herring
2024-10-31 15:52 ` [PATCH 02/13] dt-bindings: clock: eyeq: add Mobileye EyeQ5 core clocks Théo Lebrun
2024-10-31 15:52 ` [PATCH 03/13] dt-bindings: clock: eyeq: add Mobileye EyeQ5 peripheral clocks Théo Lebrun
2024-10-31 15:52 ` [PATCH 04/13] dt-bindings: clock: eyeq: add Mobileye EyeQ6H central clocks Théo Lebrun
2024-11-01 7:48 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2024-11-04 16:16 ` Théo Lebrun
2024-10-31 15:52 ` [PATCH 05/13] dt-bindings: clock: eyeq: add Mobileye EyeQ6H west clocks Théo Lebrun
2024-10-31 15:52 ` [PATCH 06/13] clk: fixed-factor: add clk_hw_register_fixed_factor_index() function Théo Lebrun
2024-10-31 15:52 ` [PATCH 07/13] clk: eyeq: require clock index with phandle in all cases Théo Lebrun
2024-10-31 15:52 ` [PATCH 08/13] clk: eyeq: add fixed factor clocks infrastructure Théo Lebrun
2024-10-31 15:52 ` [PATCH 09/13] clk: eyeq: add EyeQ5 fixed factor clocks Théo Lebrun
2024-10-31 15:53 ` [PATCH 10/13] clk: eyeq: add EyeQ6H central " Théo Lebrun
2024-10-31 15:53 ` [PATCH 11/13] clk: eyeq: add EyeQ6H west " Théo Lebrun
2024-10-31 15:53 ` [PATCH 12/13] MIPS: mobileye: eyeq5: use OLB as provider for " Théo Lebrun
2024-10-31 15:53 ` [PATCH 13/13] MIPS: mobileye: eyeq6h: add OLB nodes OLB and remove fixed clocks Théo Lebrun
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