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From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>
Cc: Jing Zhang <jingzhangos@google.com>, KVM <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
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	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito <eesposit@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 3/4] KVM: stats: Add ioctl commands to pull statistics in binary format
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2021 18:44:27 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <fd37d21f-f3ae-d370-f8e1-cf552be3b2ee@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <871rcmhq43.wl-maz@kernel.org>

On 10/03/21 18:31, Marc Zyngier wrote:
>> Maintaining VM-global counters would require an atomic instruction and
>> would suffer lots of cacheline bouncing even on architectures that
>> have relaxed atomic memory operations.
> Which is why we have per-cpu counters already. Making use of them
> doesn't seem that outlandish.

But you wouldn't be able to guarantee consistency anyway, would you? 
You *could* copy N*M counters to userspace, but there's no guarantee 
that they are consistent, neither within a single vCPU nor within a 
single counter.

>> Speed/efficiency of retrieving statistics is important, but let's keep
>> in mind that the baseline for comparison is hundreds of syscalls and
>> filesystem lookups.
>
> Having that baseline in the cover letter would be a good start, as
> well as an indication of the frequency this is used at.

Can't disagree, especially on the latter which I have no idea about.

Paolo


  reply	other threads:[~2021-03-10 17:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-03-10  0:30 [RFC PATCH 0/4] KVM: stats: Retrieve statistics data in binary format Jing Zhang
2021-03-10  0:30 ` [RFC PATCH 1/4] KVM: stats: Separate statistics name strings from debugfs code Jing Zhang
2021-03-10 14:19   ` Marc Zyngier
2021-03-10 18:51     ` Jing Zhang
2021-03-10  0:30 ` [RFC PATCH 2/4] KVM: stats: Define APIs for aggregated stats retrieval in binary format Jing Zhang
2021-03-10 14:58   ` Marc Zyngier
2021-03-10 19:36     ` Jing Zhang
2021-03-10  0:30 ` [RFC PATCH 3/4] KVM: stats: Add ioctl commands to pull statistics " Jing Zhang
2021-03-10 14:55   ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-03-10 21:41     ` Jing Zhang
2021-03-12 18:11       ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-03-12 22:27         ` Jing Zhang
2021-03-13  9:35           ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-03-15 22:31     ` Jing Zhang
2021-03-16 17:54       ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-03-10 15:51   ` Marc Zyngier
2021-03-10 16:03     ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-03-10 17:05       ` Marc Zyngier
2021-03-10 17:11         ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-03-10 17:31           ` Marc Zyngier
2021-03-10 17:44             ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2021-03-10 21:43               ` Jing Zhang
2021-03-10  0:30 ` [RFC PATCH 4/4] KVM: selftests: Add selftest for KVM binary form statistics interface Jing Zhang

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