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From: "Byungchul Park" <byungchul.park@lge.com>
To: 'Peter Zijlstra' <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: mingo@kernel.org, tglx@linutronix.de, walken@google.com,
	boqun.feng@gmail.com, kirill@shutemov.name,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	iamjoonsoo.kim@lge.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	willy@infradead.org, npiggin@gmail.com, kernel-team@lge.com
Subject: RE: [PATCH v6 05/15] lockdep: Implement crossrelease feature
Date: Fri, 19 May 2017 19:56:53 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <005a01d2d08e$9fe62800$dfb27800$@lge.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170519103025.zb5impbsek77ahwa@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter Zijlstra [mailto:peterz@infradead.org]
> Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 7:30 PM
> To: Byungchul Park
> Cc: mingo@kernel.org; tglx@linutronix.de; walken@google.com;
> boqun.feng@gmail.com; kirill@shutemov.name; linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org;
> linux-mm@kvack.org; iamjoonsoo.kim@lge.com; akpm@linux-foundation.org;
> willy@infradead.org; npiggin@gmail.com; kernel-team@lge.com
> Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 05/15] lockdep: Implement crossrelease feature
> 
> On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 05:07:08PM +0900, Byungchul Park wrote:
> > On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 05:18:52PM +0900, Byungchul Park wrote:
> > > Lockdep is a runtime locking correctness validator that detects and
> > > reports a deadlock or its possibility by checking dependencies between
> > > locks. It's useful since it does not report just an actual deadlock
> but
> > > also the possibility of a deadlock that has not actually happened yet.
> > > That enables problems to be fixed before they affect real systems.
> > >
> > > However, this facility is only applicable to typical locks, such as
> > > spinlocks and mutexes, which are normally released within the context
> in
> > > which they were acquired. However, synchronization primitives like
> page
> > > locks or completions, which are allowed to be released in any context,
> > > also create dependencies and can cause a deadlock. So lockdep should
> > > track these locks to do a better job. The 'crossrelease'
> implementation
> > > makes these primitives also be tracked.
> >
> > Excuse me but I have a question...
> >
> > Only for maskable irq, can I assume that hardirq are prevented within
> > hardirq context? I remember that nested interrupts were allowed in the
> > past but not recommanded. But what about now? I'm curious about the
> > overall direction of kernel and current status. It would be very
> > appriciated if you answer it.
> 
> So you're right. In general enabling IRQs from hardirq context is
> discouraged but allowed. However, if you were to do that with a lock
> held that would instantly make lockdep report a deadlock, as the lock is
> then both used from IRQ context and has IRQs enabled.
> 
> So from a locking perspective you can assume no nesting, but from a
> state tracking pov we have to deal with the nesting I think (although it
> is very rare).

Got it. Thank you.

> You're asking this in relation to the rollback thing, right? I think we

Exactly. I wanted to make it clear when implementing the rollback for
irqs and works of workqueue.

> should only save the state when hardirq_context goes from 0->1 and
> restore on 1->0.

Yes, it's already done in v6, as you are saying.

Thank you very much.

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  reply	other threads:[~2017-05-19 10:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-03-14  8:18 [PATCH v6 00/15] lockdep: Implement crossrelease feature Byungchul Park
2017-03-14  8:18 ` [PATCH v6 01/15] lockdep: Refactor lookup_chain_cache() Byungchul Park
2017-03-14  8:18 ` [PATCH v6 02/15] lockdep: Add a function building a chain between two classes Byungchul Park
2017-03-14  8:18 ` [PATCH v6 03/15] lockdep: Change the meaning of check_prev_add()'s return value Byungchul Park
2017-03-14  8:18 ` [PATCH v6 04/15] lockdep: Make check_prev_add() able to handle external stack_trace Byungchul Park
2017-03-14  8:18 ` [PATCH v6 05/15] lockdep: Implement crossrelease feature Byungchul Park
2017-04-19 14:25   ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-04-24  5:11     ` Byungchul Park
2017-04-24 10:17       ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-04-25  5:40         ` Byungchul Park
2017-05-16 14:18           ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-05-18  6:22             ` Byungchul Park
2017-04-19 15:08   ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-04-24  4:36     ` Byungchul Park
2017-04-19 17:19   ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-04-24  3:04     ` Byungchul Park
2017-04-24  9:30       ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-04-25  6:59         ` Byungchul Park
2017-04-19 17:20   ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-04-24  3:13     ` Byungchul Park
2017-05-19  8:07   ` Byungchul Park
2017-05-19 10:30     ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-05-19 10:56       ` Byungchul Park [this message]
2017-03-14  8:18 ` [PATCH v6 06/15] lockdep: Handle non(or multi)-acquisition of a crosslock Byungchul Park
2017-03-14  8:18 ` [PATCH v6 07/15] lockdep: Avoid adding redundant direct links of crosslocks Byungchul Park
2017-03-14  8:18 ` [PATCH v6 08/15] lockdep: Fix incorrect condition to print bug msgs for MAX_LOCKDEP_CHAIN_HLOCKS Byungchul Park
2017-03-14  8:18 ` [PATCH v6 09/15] lockdep: Make print_circular_bug() aware of crossrelease Byungchul Park
2017-03-14  8:18 ` [PATCH v6 10/15] lockdep: Apply crossrelease to completions Byungchul Park
2017-03-14  8:18 ` [PATCH v6 11/15] pagemap.h: Remove trailing white space Byungchul Park
2017-03-14  8:18 ` [PATCH v6 12/15] lockdep: Apply crossrelease to PG_locked locks Byungchul Park
2017-03-14  8:19 ` [PATCH v6 13/15] lockdep: Apply lock_acquire(release) on __Set(__Clear)PageLocked Byungchul Park
2017-03-14  8:19 ` [PATCH v6 14/15] lockdep: Move data of CONFIG_LOCKDEP_PAGELOCK from page to page_ext Byungchul Park
2017-03-14  8:19 ` [PATCH v6 15/15] lockdep: Crossrelease feature documentation Byungchul Park

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