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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Peter Collingbourne <pcc@google.com>
Cc: John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	"Kirill A . Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Evgenii Stepanov <eugenis@google.com>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>, Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>,
	Linux ARM <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	Linux Memory Management List <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	kernel test robot <lkp@intel.com>,
	Linux API <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4] mm: introduce reference pages
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2021 09:28:31 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0345cd7b-0196-1c67-6b6c-a5638a66171b@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMn1gO529Ua1LJBM=vdwT8Cz+CXSvJcuGhuqotSuiUyjTBDfAQ@mail.gmail.com>


>>> --- a/include/linux/gfp.h
>>> +++ b/include/linux/gfp.h
>>> @@ -55,8 +55,9 @@ struct vm_area_struct;
>>>    #define ___GFP_ACCOUNT              0x400000u
>>>    #define ___GFP_ZEROTAGS             0x800000u
>>>    #define ___GFP_SKIP_KASAN_POISON    0x1000000u
>>> +#define ___GFP_NOZERO                0x2000000u
>>
>> Oh god, please no. We've discussed this a couple of times already:
>> whatever leaves the page allcoator shall be zeroed. No exceptions, not
>> even for other allocators (like hugetlb).
>>
>> Introducing something like that to the whole system, including random
>> drivers, destroys the whole purpose of the security feature. Please
>> don't burry something so controversial in your patch.
> 
> Got it -- I was unaware that this was controversial.
> 
> Avoiding the double initialization does help a bit in benchmarks, at
> least for the fully faulted case. The alternative approach that I was
> thinking of was to somehow plumb the required pattern into the page
> allocator (which would maintain the invariant that the pages are
> initialized, but not necessarily with zeroes), but this would require
> touching several layers of the allocator.  I suppose that this doesn't
> need to be done immediately though -- we can deal with the double
> initialization for now and avoid it somehow in a followup.

As it's a clear optimization, it should definitely be separated from 
this "introduction" patch.

I agree that the logic for optimizing initialization of a page in this 
case should best reside in page_alloc.c, for example providing a helper 
for optimizing the initialization in there. We already pass alloc_flags 
internally, maybe we can then reuse that to minimize changes.

-- 
Thanks,

David / dhildenb



      parent reply	other threads:[~2021-07-20  7:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-06-19  9:20 [PATCH v4] mm: introduce reference pages Peter Collingbourne
2021-06-28 12:24 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2021-07-17  2:58   ` Peter Collingbourne
2021-06-28 13:10 ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-07-17  2:58   ` Peter Collingbourne
2021-06-28 19:33 ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-06-28 19:44   ` John Hubbard
2021-06-28 19:56     ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-07-17  2:58       ` Peter Collingbourne
2021-06-29  7:19 ` John Hubbard
2021-06-29 11:58   ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-06-29 17:48     ` John Hubbard
2021-06-29 18:21       ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-06-29 18:28         ` John Hubbard
2021-07-17  2:59   ` Peter Collingbourne
2021-07-19 20:47 ` David Hildenbrand
2021-07-19 20:50 ` David Hildenbrand
2021-07-19 22:26   ` Peter Collingbourne
2021-07-19 22:30     ` John Hubbard
2021-07-20  7:28     ` David Hildenbrand [this message]

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