From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Byungchul Park <byungchul@sk.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Cc: kernel_team@skhynix.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
ying.huang@intel.com, vernhao@tencent.com,
mgorman@techsingularity.net, hughd@google.com,
willy@infradead.org, peterz@infradead.org, luto@kernel.org,
tglx@linutronix.de, mingo@redhat.com, bp@alien8.de,
dave.hansen@linux.intel.com, rjgolo@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v10 00/12] LUF(Lazy Unmap Flush) reducing tlb numbers over 90%
Date: Tue, 28 May 2024 10:41:54 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <07686f06-f1a8-4282-bb48-fc4a5b554552@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240510065206.76078-1-byungchul@sk.com>
Am 10.05.24 um 08:51 schrieb Byungchul Park:
> Hi everyone,
>
> While I'm working with a tiered memory system e.g. CXL memory, I have
> been facing migration overhead esp. tlb shootdown on promotion or
> demotion between different tiers. Yeah.. most tlb shootdowns on
> migration through hinting fault can be avoided thanks to Huang Ying's
> work, commit 4d4b6d66db ("mm,unmap: avoid flushing tlb in batch if PTE
> is inaccessible"). See the following link for more information:
>
> https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20231115025755.GA29979@system.software.com/
>
> However, it's only for migration through hinting fault. I thought it'd
> be much better if we have a general mechanism to reduce all the tlb
> numbers that we can apply to any unmap code, that we normally believe
> tlb flush should be followed.
>
> I'm suggesting a new mechanism, LUF(Lazy Unmap Flush), defers tlb flush
> until folios that have been unmapped and freed, eventually get allocated
> again. It's safe for folios that had been mapped read-only and were
> unmapped, since the contents of the folios don't change while staying in
> pcp or buddy so we can still read the data through the stale tlb entries.
>
> tlb flush can be defered when folios get unmapped as long as it
> guarantees to perform tlb flush needed, before the folios actually
> become used, of course, only if all the corresponding ptes don't have
> write permission. Otherwise, the system will get messed up.
>
> To achieve that:
>
> 1. For the folios that map only to non-writable tlb entries, prevent
> tlb flush during unmapping but perform it just before the folios
> actually become used, out of buddy or pcp.
Trying to understand the impact: Effectively, a CPU could still read data from a
page that has already been freed, until that page gets reallocated again.
The important part I can see is
1) PCP/buddy must not change page content (e.g., poison, init_on_free),
otherwise an app might read wrong content.
2) If we mess up the flush-before-realloc, an app might observe data written by
whoever allocated the page.
3) We must reliably detect+handle any read-only PTEs for which we didn't flush
the TLB yet, otherwise an app could see its memory writes getting lost. I recall
that at least uffd-wp might defer TLB flushes (see comment in do_wp_page()). Not
sure about other pte_wrprotect() callers that flush the TLB after processing
multiple page tables, whereby rmap code might succeed in unmapping a page before
the TLB flush happened.
Any other possible issues you stumbled over that are worth mentioning?
--
Thanks,
David / dhildenb
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-05-28 8:42 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-05-10 6:51 [PATCH v10 00/12] LUF(Lazy Unmap Flush) reducing tlb numbers over 90% Byungchul Park
2024-05-10 6:51 ` [PATCH v10 01/12] x86/tlb: add APIs manipulating tlb batch's arch data Byungchul Park
2024-05-10 6:51 ` [PATCH v10 02/12] arm64: tlbflush: " Byungchul Park
2024-05-10 6:51 ` [PATCH v10 03/12] riscv, tlb: " Byungchul Park
2024-05-10 6:51 ` [PATCH v10 04/12] x86/tlb, riscv/tlb, mm/rmap: separate arch_tlbbatch_clear() out of arch_tlbbatch_flush() Byungchul Park
2024-05-10 6:51 ` [PATCH v10 05/12] mm: buddy: make room for a new variable, ugen, in struct page Byungchul Park
2024-05-10 6:52 ` [PATCH v10 06/12] mm: add folio_put_ugen() to deliver unmap generation number to pcp or buddy Byungchul Park
2024-05-10 6:52 ` [PATCH v10 07/12] mm: add a parameter, unmap generation number, to free_unref_folios() Byungchul Park
2024-05-10 6:52 ` [PATCH v10 08/12] mm/rmap: recognize read-only tlb entries during batched tlb flush Byungchul Park
2024-05-10 6:52 ` [PATCH v10 09/12] mm: implement LUF(Lazy Unmap Flush) defering tlb flush when folios get unmapped Byungchul Park
2024-05-10 6:52 ` [PATCH v10 10/12] mm: separate move/undo parts from migrate_pages_batch() Byungchul Park
2024-05-10 6:52 ` [PATCH v10 11/12] mm, migrate: apply luf mechanism to unmapping during migration Byungchul Park
2024-05-10 6:52 ` [PATCH v10 12/12] mm, vmscan: apply luf mechanism to unmapping during folio reclaim Byungchul Park
2024-05-11 6:54 ` [PATCH v10 00/12] LUF(Lazy Unmap Flush) reducing tlb numbers over 90% Huang, Ying
2024-05-13 1:41 ` Byungchul Park
2024-05-11 7:15 ` Huang, Ying
2024-05-13 1:44 ` Byungchul Park
2024-05-22 2:16 ` Byungchul Park
2024-05-22 7:38 ` Huang, Ying
2024-05-22 10:27 ` Byungchul Park
2024-05-22 14:15 ` Byungchul Park
2024-05-24 17:16 ` Dave Hansen
2024-05-27 1:57 ` Byungchul Park
2024-05-27 2:43 ` Dave Hansen
2024-05-27 3:46 ` Byungchul Park
2024-05-27 4:19 ` Byungchul Park
2024-05-27 4:25 ` Byungchul Park
2024-05-27 22:58 ` Byungchul Park
2024-05-29 2:16 ` Huang, Ying
2024-05-30 1:02 ` Byungchul Park
2024-05-27 3:10 ` Huang, Ying
2024-05-27 3:56 ` Byungchul Park
2024-05-28 15:14 ` Dave Hansen
2024-05-29 5:00 ` Byungchul Park
2024-05-29 16:41 ` Dave Hansen
2024-05-30 0:50 ` Byungchul Park
2024-05-30 0:59 ` Byungchul Park
2024-05-30 1:11 ` Huang, Ying
2024-05-30 1:33 ` Byungchul Park
2024-05-30 7:18 ` Byungchul Park
2024-05-30 8:24 ` Huang, Ying
2024-05-30 8:41 ` Byungchul Park
2024-05-30 13:50 ` Dave Hansen
2024-05-31 2:06 ` Byungchul Park
2024-05-30 9:33 ` Byungchul Park
2024-05-31 1:45 ` Huang, Ying
2024-05-31 2:20 ` Byungchul Park
2024-05-28 8:41 ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2024-05-29 4:39 ` Byungchul Park
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