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From: lazytyped <lazytyped@gmail.com>
To: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>, Ilya Smith <blackzert@gmail.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
	"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
	Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>, Jerome Glisse <jglisse@redhat.com>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	Helge Deller <deller@gmx.de>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>, Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Kernel Hardening <kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] Randomization of address chosen by mmap.
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2018 22:31:38 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <089e9c52-f623-085a-4d8b-d91cfc6a3608@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGXu5jKF7ysJqj57ZktrcVL4G2NWOFHCud8dtXFHLs=tvVLXnQ@mail.gmail.com>



On 2/27/18 9:52 PM, Kees Cook wrote:
> I'd like more details on the threat model here; if it's just a matter
> of .so loading order, I wonder if load order randomization would get a
> comparable level of uncertainty without the memory fragmentation,

This also seems to assume that leaking the address of one single library
isn't enough to mount a ROP attack to either gain enough privileges or
generate a primitive that can leak further information. Is this really
the case? Do you have some further data around this?


A A A A A A  -A  twiz

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  reply	other threads:[~2018-02-27 21:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-02-27 13:13 [RFC PATCH] Randomization of address chosen by mmap Ilya Smith
2018-02-27 20:52 ` Kees Cook
2018-02-27 21:31   ` lazytyped [this message]
2018-02-28 17:13   ` Ilya Smith
2018-02-28 18:33     ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-02-28 21:02       ` Daniel Micay
2018-03-03 13:58         ` Ilya Smith
2018-03-03 21:00           ` Daniel Micay
2018-03-04  3:47             ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-03-04 20:56               ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-03-05 13:09                 ` Ilya Smith
2018-03-05 14:23                   ` Daniel Micay
2018-03-05 16:05                     ` Ilya Smith
2018-03-05 16:23                   ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-03-05 19:27                     ` Ilya Smith
2018-03-05 19:47                       ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-03-05 20:20                         ` Ilya Smith
2018-03-02 20:30       ` Ilya Smith
2018-03-02 20:48         ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-03-03 15:13           ` Ilya Smith
2018-02-28 19:54     ` Kees Cook
2018-03-01 13:52       ` Ilya Smith
2018-03-02  7:17 ` 097eb0af45: kernel_BUG_at_mm/hugetlb.c kernel test robot

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