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From: Balbir Singh <bsingharora@gmail.com>
To: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Cc: cgroups@vger.kernel.org, Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] cgroup_threadgroup_rwsem - affects scalability and OOM
Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2016 17:02:47 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0a7ffe43-c0c6-85df-9bc2-d00fc837e284@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160809062900.GD4906@mtj.duckdns.org>



On 09/08/16 16:29, Tejun Heo wrote:
> Hello, Balbir.
> 
> On Tue, Aug 09, 2016 at 02:19:01PM +1000, Balbir Singh wrote:
>>
>> cgroup_threadgroup_rwsem is acquired in read mode during process exit and fork.
>> It is also grabbed in write mode during __cgroups_proc_write
>>
>> I've recently run into a scenario with lots of memory pressure and OOM
>> and I am beginning to see
>>
>> systemd
>>
>>  __switch_to+0x1f8/0x350
>>  __schedule+0x30c/0x990
>>  schedule+0x48/0xc0
>>  percpu_down_write+0x114/0x170
>>  __cgroup_procs_write.isra.12+0xb8/0x3c0
>>  cgroup_file_write+0x74/0x1a0
>>  kernfs_fop_write+0x188/0x200
>>  __vfs_write+0x6c/0xe0
>>  vfs_write+0xc0/0x230
>>  SyS_write+0x6c/0x110
>>  system_call+0x38/0xb4
>>
>> This thread is waiting on the reader of cgroup_threadgroup_rwsem to exit.
>> The reader itself is under memory pressure and has gone into reclaim after
>> fork. There are times the reader also ends up waiting on oom_lock as well.
>>
> ...
>>  copy_page_range+0x4ec/0x950
>>  copy_process.isra.5+0x15a0/0x1870
>>  _do_fork+0xa8/0x4b0
>>  ppc_clone+0x8/0xc
> 
> Yeah, we definitely don't wanna be holding the rwsem during the actual
> fork.
> 
> ...
>> There are other theoretical issues with this semaphore
>>
>> systemd can do
>>
>> 1. cgroup_mutex (cgroup_kn_lock_live)
>> 2. cgroup_threadgroup_rwsem (W) (__cgroup_procs_write)
>>
>> and other threads can go
>>
>> 1. cgroup_threadgroup_rwsem (R) (copy_process)
>> 2. mem_cgroup_iter (as a part of reclaim) (cgroup_mutex -- rcu lock or cgroup_mutex)
> 
> Hmm? Where does mem_cgroup_iter grab cgroup_mutex?  cgroup_mutex nests
> outside cgroup_threadgroup_rwsem or most other mutexes for that matter
> and isn't exposed from cgroup core.
> 

I based my theory on the code

mem_cgroup_iter -> css_next_descendant_pre which asserts

cgroup_assert_mutex_or_rcu_locked(), 

although you are right, we hold RCU lock while calling css_* routines.

>> However, I've not examined them in too much detail or looked at lockdep
>> wait chains for those paths.
>>
>> I am sure there is a good reason for placing cgroup_threadgroup_rwsem
>> where it is today and I might be missing something. I am also surprised
> 
> I could be missing something too but the positioning is largely
> historic.
> 
>> no-one else has run into it so far.
> 
> Maybe it might matter that much on a system which is already heavily
> thrasing, but yeah, we definitely want to tighten down the reader
> sections so that it doesn't get in the way of making forward progress.
> 

It seems to cause my system to thrash quite badly.

>> Comments?
> 
> The change looks good to me on the first glance but I'll think more
> about it tomorrow.
> 
> Thanks!
> 


Thanks for the review.

Balbir Singh.

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  reply	other threads:[~2016-08-09  7:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-08-09  4:19 [RFC][PATCH] cgroup_threadgroup_rwsem - affects scalability and OOM Balbir Singh
2016-08-09  6:29 ` Tejun Heo
2016-08-09  7:02   ` Balbir Singh [this message]
2016-08-09 14:26     ` Tejun Heo
2016-08-10  1:21       ` Balbir Singh
2016-08-09  9:00 ` Zefan Li
2016-08-09 13:57   ` Balbir Singh
2016-08-10  1:31     ` Zefan Li
2016-08-09 18:09 ` Oleg Nesterov
2016-08-10 19:43 ` Tejun Heo
2016-08-11 23:47   ` Balbir Singh

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