From: "Yin, Fengwei" <fengwei.yin@intel.com>
To: Yang Shi <shy828301@gmail.com>
Cc: "zhangpeng (AS)" <zhangpeng362@huawei.com>, <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>, <lstoakes@gmail.com>,
<hughd@google.com>, <david@redhat.com>, <vbabka@suse.cz>,
<peterz@infradead.org>, <mgorman@suse.de>, <mingo@redhat.com>,
<riel@redhat.com>, <ying.huang@intel.com>, <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
Nanyong Sun <sunnanyong@huawei.com>,
Kefeng Wang <wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com>
Subject: Re: [Question]: major faults are still triggered after mlockall when numa balancing
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2023 19:10:14 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <0e618256-2d34-429b-b694-6f150d8fda79@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHbLzkokzDAAfWoB8gsUpSUubAq+V-Gu_0pjpaGvKb83kA0Vww@mail.gmail.com>
On 11/14/2023 9:41 AM, Yang Shi wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 9, 2023 at 5:57 PM Yin, Fengwei <fengwei.yin@intel.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On 11/10/2023 6:54 AM, Yang Shi wrote:
>>> On Thu, Nov 9, 2023 at 5:48 AM zhangpeng (AS) <zhangpeng362@huawei.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>
>>>> There is a performance issue that has been bothering us recently.
>>>> This problem can reproduce in the latest mainline version (Linux 6.6).
>>>>
>>>> We use mlockall(MCL_CURRENT | MCL_FUTURE) in the user mode process
>>>> to avoid performance problems caused by major fault.
>>>>
>>>> There is a stage in numa fault which will set pte as 0 in do_numa_page() :
>>>> ptep_modify_prot_start() will clear the vmf->pte, until
>>>> ptep_modify_prot_commit() assign a value to the vmf->pte.
>>>>
>>>> For the data segment of the user-mode program, the global variable area
>>>> is a private mapping. After the pagecache is loaded, the private
>>>> anonymous page is generated after the COW is triggered. Mlockall can
>>>> lock COW pages (anonymous pages), but the original file pages cannot
>>>> be locked and may be reclaimed. If the global variable (private anon page)
>>>> is accessed when vmf->pte is zero which is concurrently set by numa fault,
>>>> a file page fault will be triggered.
>>>>
>>>> At this time, the original private file page may have been reclaimed.
>>>> If the page cache is not available at this time, a major fault will be
>>>> triggered and the file will be read, causing additional overhead.
>>>>
>>>> Our problem scenario is as follows:
>>>>
>>>> task 1 task 2
>>>> ------ ------
>>>> /* scan global variables */
>>>> do_numa_page()
>>>> spin_lock(vmf->ptl)
>>>> ptep_modify_prot_start()
>>>> /* set vmf->pte as null */
>>>> /* Access global variables */
>>>> handle_pte_fault()
>>>> /* no pte lock */
>>>> do_pte_missing()
>>>> do_fault()
>>>> do_read_fault()
>>>> ptep_modify_prot_commit()
>>>> /* ptep update done */
>>>> pte_unmap_unlock(vmf->pte, vmf->ptl)
>>>> do_fault_around()
>>>> __do_fault()
>>>> filemap_fault()
>>>> /* page cache is not available
>>>> and a major fault is triggered */
>>>> do_sync_mmap_readahead()
>>>> /* page_not_uptodate and goto
>>>> out_retry. */
>>>>
>>>> Is there any way to avoid such a major fault?
>>>
>>> IMHO I don't think it is a bug. The man page quoted by Willy says "All
>>> mapped pages are guaranteed to be resident in RAM when the call
>>> returns successfully", but the later COW already made the file page
>>> unmapped, right? The PTE pointed to the COW'ed anon page.
>>> Hypothetically if we kept the file page mlocked and unmapped,
>>> munlock() would have not munlocked the file page at all, it would be
>>> mlocked in memory forever.
>> But in this case, even the COW page is mlocked. There is small window
>> that PTE is set to null in do_numa_page(). data segment access (it's to
>> COW page which has nothing to do with original page cache) happens in
>> this small window will trigger filemap_fault() to fault in original
>> page cache.
>
> Yes, my point is this may not break the mlockall, but the potential
> optimization by avoiding the major fault may still stand.
Totally agree.
Regards
Yin, Fengwei
>
>>
>> I had thought to do double check whether vmf->pte is NULL in do_read_fault().
>> But it's not reliable enough.
>>
>> Matthew's idea to use protnone to block both hardware accessing and
>> do_pte_missing() looks more promising to me.
>>
>>
>> Regards
>> Yin, Fengwei
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Best Regards,
>>>> Peng
>>>>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-11-14 11:10 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-11-09 13:47 [Question]: major faults are still triggered after mlockall when numa balancing zhangpeng (AS)
2023-11-09 14:11 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-11-09 14:29 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-11-09 15:15 ` Yin, Fengwei
2023-11-09 17:27 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-11-10 5:32 ` Huang, Ying
2023-11-10 9:04 ` Yin, Fengwei
2023-11-13 2:02 ` Huang, Ying
2023-11-14 11:23 ` Yin, Fengwei
2023-11-15 1:46 ` Huang, Ying
2023-11-10 9:39 ` zhangpeng (AS)
2023-11-09 22:54 ` Yang Shi
2023-11-10 1:57 ` Yin, Fengwei
2023-11-10 3:39 ` Kefeng Wang
2023-11-10 3:50 ` Yin, Fengwei
2023-11-10 4:00 ` Aneesh Kumar K V
2023-11-14 1:41 ` Yang Shi
2023-11-14 11:10 ` Yin, Fengwei [this message]
2023-11-09 23:21 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-11-10 5:04 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2023-11-10 8:36 ` zhangpeng (AS)
2023-11-10 8:17 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2023-11-10 9:50 ` zhangpeng (AS)
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