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From: Nicholas Miell <nmiell@comcast.net>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Suleiman Souhlal <ssouhlal@FreeBSD.org>,
	Ulrich Drepper <drepper@redhat.com>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>,
	Badari Pulavarty <pbadari@us.ibm.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, hugh@veritas.com,
	dvhltc@us.ibm.com, linux-mm@kvack.org, blaisorblade@yahoo.it,
	jdike@addtoit.com
Subject: Re: differences between MADV_FREE and MADV_DONTNEED
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 14:55:18 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1137538518.2842.9.camel@entropy> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m1ek36r9vq.fsf@ebiederm.dsl.xmission.com>

On Tue, 2006-01-17 at 11:23 -0700, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org> writes:
> > On Mon, Jan 16, 2006 at 05:04:07PM -0800, Nicholas Miell wrote:
> >> On Mon, 2006-01-16 at 16:24 -0800, Suleiman Souhlal wrote:
> >> > Well, imho, MADV_DONTNEED should mean "I won't need this anytime soon", 
> >> > and MADV_FREE "I will never need this again".
> >> > 
> >> 
> >> POSIX doesn't have a madvise(), but it does have a posix_madvise(), with
> >> flags defined as follows:
> >> 
> >> POSIX_MADV_NORMAL
> >>    Specifies that the application has no advice to give on its behavior
> >> with respect to the specified range. It is the default characteristic if
> >> no advice is given for a range of memory.
> >> POSIX_MADV_SEQUENTIAL
> >>    Specifies that the application expects to access the specified range
> >> sequentially from lower addresses to higher addresses.
> >> POSIX_MADV_RANDOM
> >>    Specifies that the application expects to access the specified range
> >> in a random order.
> >> POSIX_MADV_WILLNEED
> >>    Specifies that the application expects to access the specified range
> >> in the near future.
> >> POSIX_MADV_DONTNEED
> >>    Specifies that the application expects that it will not access the
> >> specified range in the near future.
> >> 
> >> Note that glibc forwards posix_madvise() directly to madvise(2), which
> >> means that right now, POSIX conformant apps which use
> >> posix_madvise(addr, len, POSIX_MADV_DONTNEED) are silently corrupting
> >> data on Linux systems.
> >
> > Does our MAD_DONTNEED numerical value match glibc's POSIX_MADV_DONTNEED?
> >
> > In either case I'd say we should backout this patch for now.  We should
> > implement a real MADV_DONTNEED and rename the current one to MADV_FREE,
> > but that's 2.6.17 material.
> 
> We definitely need to check this.  I am fairly certain  I have seen this conversation
> before.

Yes, POSIX_MADV_* have the same values as MADV_*. And if you're trying
to find the actual implementation of posix_madvise() to verify its
behavior, it is generated by script from a line in
libc/sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/syscalls.list.

-- 
Nicholas Miell <nmiell@comcast.net>

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  reply	other threads:[~2006-01-17 22:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 86+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-10-26 22:49 [RFC] madvise(MADV_TRUNCATE) Badari Pulavarty
2005-10-27  8:38 ` Andi Kleen
2005-10-27 13:17   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-10-27 15:00     ` Badari Pulavarty
2005-10-27 15:11       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-10-27 18:20         ` Andrew Morton
2005-10-27 18:35           ` Badari Pulavarty
2005-10-27 18:50             ` Andrew Morton
2005-10-27 19:40               ` Gerrit Huizenga
2005-10-27 19:56                 ` Andi Kleen
2005-10-27 23:21                   ` Darren Hart
2005-10-27 20:05               ` Theodore Ts'o
2005-10-27 20:16                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-10-28  1:42                 ` Badari Pulavarty
2005-10-28 16:33                   ` Theodore Ts'o
2005-10-27 20:22               ` Jeff Dike
2005-10-27 20:04           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-10-27 20:50             ` Andrew Morton
2005-10-27 21:37               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-10-27 22:23                 ` Andrew Morton
2005-10-27 23:05                   ` Badari Pulavarty
2005-10-27 23:16                     ` Andrew Morton
2005-10-27 23:33                       ` Peter Chubb
2005-10-28  0:22                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-10-28  0:32                     ` Andrew Morton
2005-10-28  1:10                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-10-28  1:27                       ` Badari Pulavarty
2005-10-28  2:00                         ` Andrew Morton
2005-10-27 22:32               ` Badari Pulavarty
2005-10-27 23:28             ` Peter Chubb
2005-10-27 23:49               ` Andrew Morton
2005-10-27 23:56                 ` Nathan Scott
2005-10-28  0:15                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-10-27 23:59                 ` Peter Chubb
2005-10-28  3:46 ` Jeff Dike
2005-10-28 11:03   ` Blaisorblade
2005-10-28 13:29     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-10-28 16:56       ` Blaisorblade
2005-10-28 16:16     ` Badari Pulavarty
2005-10-28 18:40       ` Blaisorblade
2005-10-28 18:56         ` Badari Pulavarty
2005-10-29  0:35         ` Badari Pulavarty
2005-10-28 16:19   ` Badari Pulavarty
2005-10-28 17:10     ` Blaisorblade
2005-10-28 18:28       ` Jeff Dike
2005-10-28 18:44         ` Blaisorblade
2005-10-28 18:42     ` Jeff Dike
2005-10-28 18:54       ` Badari Pulavarty
2005-10-29  0:03       ` Badari Pulavarty
2005-10-29  2:51         ` Jeff Dike
2005-10-31 16:34           ` Badari Pulavarty
2005-10-31 19:15           ` Badari Pulavarty
2005-10-31 19:49           ` [RFC][PATCH] madvise(MADV_TRUNCATE) Badari Pulavarty
2005-11-01  0:05             ` Jeff Dike
2005-11-02  1:15               ` [PATCH] 2.6.14 patch for supporting madvise(MADV_FREE) Badari Pulavarty
2005-11-02  1:43                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-11-02 15:49                   ` Badari Pulavarty
2005-11-02 16:12                   ` [PATCH] 2.6.14 patch for supporting madvise(MADV_REMOVE) Badari Pulavarty
2005-11-02 19:54                     ` New bug in patch and existing Linux code - race with install_page() (was: Re: [PATCH] 2.6.14 patch for supporting madvise(MADV_REMOVE)) Blaisorblade
2005-11-02 20:12                       ` Hugh Dickins
2005-11-02 20:45                         ` Hugh Dickins
2005-11-02 21:36                       ` Badari Pulavarty
2005-11-02 21:55                         ` Hugh Dickins
2005-11-02 22:02                           ` Badari Pulavarty
2005-11-12  0:25                     ` [PATCH] 2.6.14 patch for supporting madvise(MADV_REMOVE) Andrew Morton
2005-11-12  0:34                       ` Badari Pulavarty
2005-11-12  1:43                         ` Andrew Morton
2005-11-12  4:41                           ` Badari Pulavarty
2006-01-16 13:06                             ` differences between MADV_FREE and MADV_DONTNEED Andrea Arcangeli
2006-01-16 16:02                               ` Suleiman Souhlal
2006-01-16 16:28                                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2006-01-16 17:03                                   ` Suleiman Souhlal
2006-01-16 17:24                                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2006-01-16 21:43                                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-01-17  0:24                                         ` Suleiman Souhlal
2006-01-17  1:04                                           ` Nicholas Miell
2006-01-17 12:43                                             ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-01-17 18:23                                               ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-01-17 22:55                                                 ` Nicholas Miell [this message]
2007-03-01 18:11                                                 ` Samuel Thibault
2006-01-17 19:06                                               ` Badari Pulavarty
2006-01-17  1:06                               ` Blaisorblade
2006-01-17  1:33                                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-11-12  0:34                     ` [PATCH] 2.6.14 patch for supporting madvise(MADV_REMOVE) Andrew Morton
2005-10-28 17:55   ` [RFC] madvise(MADV_TRUNCATE) Blaisorblade
2005-10-28 21:23     ` Theodore Ts'o

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